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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  After all the stuff that we know (and all the stuff that we can only imagine), I did not get the impression that there was anything worth saving. His wife and daughters need stability and a warm home environment with less anxiety and stress. He does not seem like the type to change his behavior for their sake. He strikes me as someone who is on a long spiral downward, and it's better for his family if he does not drag them down with him.

  So I think it's probably for the best if he moves far from them and goes on about his self-destructive business. Maybe he will hit rock bottom before it is too late and turn his life around. Maybe not. Better for his family to be free of him until he decides one way or the other.
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  Remembering back

  by Hellothere in

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  anything you remember that went in org that you feel embarrassed now?

  i remember back in the 80s how seems like every magazine was about bashing other group's.

  how holy and faithful watchtower was compared to catholic church.

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  I guess there are many things that make me feel embarrassed for the organization and its leadership, not so much the followers. I can remember a few of the things that made me stop and think; even though I pushed those things aside at the time, they ended up having an effect in the long run.

  I think the one that stuck with me the most was the admission that obedience was more important than being correct, using the example of a couple that had informed the GB of a different interpretation of some teaching. They were told that the WTS would keep the present teaching, and they discussed their view with others in the congregation, which led to them being disfellowshipped. Later, the WTS adopted the very interpretation that the couple had promoted, but the couple were not reinstated. Why? Because they had disobeyed. The article basically admitted that being right did not make a difference!

  I'm sure I echoed the company line at the time, but it is difficult to try to live with honesty and dignity while accepting something like that. I wonder how many other JWs go through that, where they try to stay in line with the organization but find it harder and harder to do so, because something they do is too wrong to rationalize and ignore forever.
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  Help please.

  by lastmanstanding in

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  recently, in the past few months, and this only applies to in dubs who might have taken note, the watchtower study edition made a change.

  it mentioned the “warning work” where dubs are going to march around and proclaim everyone is going to die.. anyway, this article said it was now only a possibility, not a sure thing.. i can’t find it.

  did watchtology change it already?.

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  "But just in case, none of the GB will be undertaking this dangerous work. However, if any of you get the living snot beat out of you, make sure to give us all the details for the 'experiences' portion of the next convention!"
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  WATCHTOWER's RTO (Remote translation offices) like this one are million dollar luxury locations

  by Terry in

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  more than 60 percent of our full-time translation teams work, not at branch offices, but at remote translation offices (rto).

  why is this arrangement beneficial?

  what equipment do translators need in order to work effectively at an rto?

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  I wonder if any translation work every actually happened there?

  They probably have a computer set up for remote access, and some poor translator connects to it from his apartment in some seedy part of town, and does the translating work all day and gets paid with the occasional pat-on-the-back.

  Not that I'm cynical or anything...
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Maybe not if money is tight? (or just that you're a cheap freeloader)

  Money might be tight, if you are paying for an apartment and still need to provide for the family that you have agreed to separate from. You might also need some extra cash in case you run into any eligible singles who might agree to go out for lunch and a couple of drinks. Or if you can't suppress the urge to rent a girlfriend for a week or two.

  All this while your financial support base keeps shrinking, for reasons that you just can't seem to grasp. Don't they understand what the life of a professional activist is like???
  
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  Society's list of publications to trash ASAP!

  by RolRod in

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  TonusOH

  Interesting. Most are "discard," but some are "destroy." Sounds just a bit paranoid.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  TonusOH

  The forum software scales images down, you are better off posting a link.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I'll be a bit surprised if he doesn't file a civil action against Dr. Das, though not entirely. A bit, because the suits are not filed with any expectation that there will be a response; he wants to claim that his detractors wouldn't even bother to fight the charges. But not entirely, because it's possible that Dr. Das would retain counsel and respond, and that would mess up the ploy quite a bit. I don't believe that Evans wants to be questioned as part of any legal action, because his confession video exists, and it would require him to either admit to the court that he committed a criminal offense, or deny it and weaken his credibility significantly.

  And that latter part makes it particularly amusing when he tries to make it seem as if Kim has painted herself into a corner with her refusal to give him info on her legal career.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5116420062969856/marc-cora-on-youtube-causing-unnecessary-divisions

  Looks like quite a few people had him figured out even back then.
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  Help please.

  by lastmanstanding in

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  recently, in the past few months, and this only applies to in dubs who might have taken note, the watchtower study edition made a change.

  it mentioned the “warning work” where dubs are going to march around and proclaim everyone is going to die.. anyway, this article said it was now only a possibility, not a sure thing.. i can’t find it.

  did watchtology change it already?.

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  TonusOH

  I think that taking that step would be an all-or-nothing gamble. The WTS has come back from a lot of missteps, but changing the message from "join us while there is time" to "it is too late now" is unambiguously a statement that the end is upon us. How long could individuals preach that before it starts to become extremely uncomfortable and awkward?

  You don't recover from a mistake like that.