Posts by seven006

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Rookie on the Field

by peacepipe in

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i've been reading this forum page for about a year.

at first i thought it was a meeting place for practicing jw's but after reading many posts found that most people here have been hurt or don't see things eye to eye with the wt org.

i am not a jw but i have been associating with them for about 3 yrs.

I understand what you are saying, but taking Prisca's dislike for colorful language as an indication that she thinks this board is "so bad" is pushing it a bit. I can not speak for her but if you read her comments in the various threads you will see a person that might be considered a kinder, gentler soul. She may see cussing as something that has caused her pain in her life, I don't know. Her privilege in expressing her thoughts on that subject are as important to her as they are to someone who enjoys using more graphically stimulating vocabulary. Like me, I cuss when it fits my mood and the person I am cussing at. I like the fact that I can get a little creative with my
language from time to time on this board but I can also respect those who do not appreciate it. I don't judge them negatively for their thoughts and I try to respect them as much as I can. They can't help it if they do not enjoy cussing like you and I do, that doesn't make them self righteous and childish, just a little dull.

I think Prisca read the first comments from Peacepipe and just wanted her to know that this "whole board" is not full of colorful language and vicious arguments. That's because it is not, but in some cases it is. That's why I like this board so much. She expressed her feelings about language choices and she was looked at as being self-righteous and childish. As much as I like Tina and can see why she might feel that way about Prisca but I don't agree. I also like Prisca and I understand why she feels the way she does about cussing. I feel there is too much choosing of sides on this board and I find myself getting caught up in that sometimes. Just because I feel that way
doesn't mean I think this board is "so bad". I think this board is fucking perfect even though there are a lot of threads and a few posters that I don't waste my time reading. I think everyone picks and chooses what they want to read and what they want to comment on. This board is as real and as surreal as any gathering of various kinds of
people I have ever seen. Just think about it, men and women from all over the world saying what they like, feeling how they feel and telling other people that have had similar experiences in life with about it. It's a god damn special gift of the gods of technology and I love it.

If Prisca can't come to the same understanding about this board that you and I seem to share maybe it's because she has only been out of the religion for a very short time and also maybe it's because she is young. I don't know and I don't care. I see her for the kind and loving person that she is right now and just as everyone else in the world, her perspectives on various subjects may change as she gets a little older and has experienced a little more in life. Give her a chance, I was a total idiot at age 31 and I thought everyone should think the way I did and do things the way I did. I think she has a lot more on the ball then I did at the same age. I am not even close to the person I was at that age and my thoughts on life have completely changed. I was a real son-of-a-bitch at 31 and now I'm a nice guy, kind'a......little nice,..... fun, ........funny,....pure of heart and soul......ya, thats it, that last thing.

Lighten up a little and give her a chance, she really is a great lady and I don't think you have all that she has to offer this board. Tina's what, about 90? and look at her, she cracks me up all the time and I think she's damn intelligent for a woman, on top of that she's a fricken Italian for christ sakes (my ass is grass now). I wonder where her head was at when she was 31? Frankly I don't care, I like her now, just as I like Prisca. They are just two different women with different concepts of what a "stroke" is. As I said, different strokes for different folks.

Dave

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Rookie on the Field

by peacepipe in

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i've been reading this forum page for about a year.

at first i thought it was a meeting place for practicing jw's but after reading many posts found that most people here have been hurt or don't see things eye to eye with the wt org.

i am not a jw but i have been associating with them for about 3 yrs.

seven006

Tina,

It looks like your thoughts about Prisca have been developed over a longer time period than I have been on this board and before I knew either one of you. I would like to say I am sorry if I said anything that upset you and I will just stay out of this line of posting. I just think you both have exceptional qualities and are both appreciated on
this board, but it's obvious your views are from two different perspectives on life. I can understand your point as I can understand hers, but I myself look at it all in even more of a different perspective. That's what makes this board so fun, different strokes for different folks. From now on, I will be more careful about what I say and how I say it in this regard.

"In the Book of Poetry are three hundred pieces, but the design of them all may be embraced in one sentence".
-Confucius

Big hug,

Dave

PS: I can't believe I made a post without saying one funny thing or using one damn cuss word, is this what being sober feels like?

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Rookie on the Field

by peacepipe in

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i've been reading this forum page for about a year.

at first i thought it was a meeting place for practicing jw's but after reading many posts found that most people here have been hurt or don't see things eye to eye with the wt org.

i am not a jw but i have been associating with them for about 3 yrs.

seven006

Tina,
I hope what I say here won't upset you but since I like both you and Prisca I just wanted to make a comment. It is obvious that you and Prisca have two distinctive styles of expressing what you think and how you feel. I personally like both your styles and can see where each of you would have a problem with each others. If you can sit back a bit and try to understand where each of you are coming from then maybe you can understand why they are so different and why you may take offense to Prisca's style.

I don't know you very well but from what I have read it is plain to see that you come from a very different place than Prisca. Iv been to Chicago and the surrounding areas many times and I can understand why you may have a bit of a sharper edge than Prisca. You have also had some very upsetting things happen in your life much like many of us including Prisca. If Prisca spent a little time in your world she probably would not have such a sweet and docile personality that she shows on this board. In fact she would probably be eaten alive up there. I can see why you might consider her post to be whining but I see that in relation to where you are coming from. I see her posts and her style in a perspective from where she is coming from. She has stated a few times that she was brought up to be a good girl, I say good for her. With that in mind It' is understandable why she objects to colorful language. So she was a good little girl and did what her parents told her to do, does that make her weak, or stupid, or an idiot? I don't think so. Her Mom died when she was a little girl, I can only imagine how traumatic that was to go through such a loss and then to think for many years that she just might see her Mom again in a paradise earth and then come to the realization that that will not happen. You, yourself have had a traumatic loss of a love one and I again cannot imagine the pain you have had to endure. You express your pain and your frustration with life in your way and she expresses hers in her way.

Different people express painful experiences in different ways and a lot of it depends on their surroundings and upbringing. You show a tremendous amount of love and compassion to those who post on this board who have recently had some sadness in their life. You also jump all over people that come off as complete assholes and attack your friends on this board. That is your style, and for the most part it is also mine. It doesn't mean our style is more or less comforting than Prisca's style in regard to trying to comfort, it just means it is different. It is simply "a style" that projects the caring and compassion for someone who we all have had similar experiences as, but we all do it in a different manner. As a JW I rarely used colorful language. Then I became a cop at age 21 and cussing was just a part of the job. One minute I was holding on to and trying to comfort a little kid that was crying because her mommy was just killed in a car accident and the next minute I was cussing out some asshole that just cracked some old man over the head with a gun so he could steal his steal his wallet to buy some drugs. Different situations and different atmospheres create different ways of expressing yourself.

I do not see Prisca's style as whining, I see it as coming from a more docile and reserved environment. Just as she may be different if she grew up and existed in your world I think you would be very different if you grew up and existed in hers. She doesn't like foul language, well good for her, we need more people on this board like that. You like to chew out assholes, well good for you, we need more people like you also. Both of you have wonderful hearts, you just have different styles of showing those wonderful hearts. Yours may sound like bitching to some and hers may sound like whining. So what, I like reading both your posts and I don't see either one of you as bitching or whining. But that's just me and I'm as screwed up as the next person.

I would love to see you two get together and give each other a big hug. A little kiss would be good too. A little butt grabbing and some tongue would be fun also. I could take pictures and maybe a little scented oil and..............sorry my mind got off the subject.

Anyway, it's just a thought, do with it as you please.

Your bud,

Dave

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Rookie on the Field

by peacepipe in

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i've been reading this forum page for about a year.

at first i thought it was a meeting place for practicing jw's but after reading many posts found that most people here have been hurt or don't see things eye to eye with the wt org.

i am not a jw but i have been associating with them for about 3 yrs.

seven006

Peacepipe,

Welcome to the board. As a few others have said you will find a large variety of people with various thoughts and feelings in regard to the JW religion. I see that you are in the dating stage of your relationship with the JW's and as in most dating stages things seem new and exciting. You have that feeling of an impending love and hope for a bright future. All dating stages make a person full of hope and anticipation and it gives you something to look forward to and puts a smile on your face and a hop in your step. It is fresh and new and you tend to look past anything that might cause you to think with your head instead of your heart. Everyone likes the beginning of a seemingly good relationship. Everyone has their best foot forward and are on their best behavior. The ability to try and impress is of utmost importance and what appears to look impressive at first sometimes turns out just to be just an act to get you in the door. At the meetings and in their homes the JW's look like they all are as happy as they can be. At least it seems that way from the outside. When someone is dating they always have a smile on their face and from the outside everything looks great. Just beware of what lies beneath that smile and friendly hand shake. If it seems too good to be true, it usually is.

You say your husband is a catholic and you have seen the hypocrisy in that religion, that's because you have been in it long enough to see all of that. All you have seen of the JW's is what they want you to see. Just as you have seen and experienced the things with the catholic religion many of us have spent a good part of our lives in the JW religion and have seen the same thing and even worse. The only difference is the JW's are a lot better at hiding it. Keep reading this site, keep observing what we say. We are not bitter because we hate the religion, we are bitter because they have stolen our families. They have told our families not to talk to us, not to be a part of their lives. My Mom was a catholic before she became a JW, I wish with all my heart that she would have stayed a catholic. At least I would have been able to share part of my life with my Mom instead of her treating me like I am dead and only seeing me 3 times in 16 years, all because I no longer believe in her religion. The few times I have seen her all she can do is cry, she misses me and I miss her but the rules of her religion will not let her see her own son. If you call that moral, then there is not much I can say. I am a very good father and I have three great sons whom I love very much and are wonderful kids. My mother has only seen my boys a hand full of times in their lives, that is the true immorality of the JW religion. You say the JW's have good morals, I guess you have not read the threads about Silent Lambs. The protection of pedophiles is the biggest immorality there is. Ask any one of the women on this board who have suffered from the immoral policies of the watchtower organization. They hide their pedophiles as much as they hide their true immorality. What you think you see is not really the way it is and you will find several hundred posters on this board that will tell you exactly that.

You say you have read some posts from unhappy and bitter people on this board, and you are right. Each one of us has had our once loving families torn from our arms and we have watched them treat us like we are dead. Just ask yourself, is that love? Is that what a loving god would do? Is that true Christian morality or is dressing well at a meeting more important and moral? Yes, we are bitter, yes we are mad at that religion. We miss our mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters, all the people we grew up with and loved. If your family turn their backs on you wouldn't you be a little bitter? Think about it.

Take care and keep thinking

Dave

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Remote Viewing

by funkyderek in

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following on from the anybody else had visions?

thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).

i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.

seven006

Ralph,

I live in the Portland Oregon area and I'd love to see a session. I think if I did that and reported back to the rest of these people we could put this matter to rest. I think everyone here would believe me. Let's set it up.

Dave

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Food at Proper Time:Insider's Insight from Barbara

by Maximus in

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barbara anderson's attention was called to the thread about the differences in policy of great britain and the us regarding child abuse; as you know she has championed a change in that policy.

another post caught her eye, and she expressed the desire to share some thoughts with you.

i'm delighted to share her first post, which i know you will find riveting.

seven006

Maximus,

Thank you for your post and thank you for posting the reply from the organization's faithful servant. If the reasoning is correct in that the JW religion is indeed god's organization and the writers make mistakes because they are "imperfect humans" it certainly explains all the contradictions that appear in the bible and the JW publications.
What it doesn't explain is the so called "inspiration" factor. I guess god only inspires man to write on his behalf but doesn't take the time to either "direct" or "proof" what his inspired writes write. It must be that the writes are inspired but the proofers are on their own. Even the copy for a TV ad about laundry soap seems to have more attention put on it for accuracy then the inspired writings of the Watchtower society. The TV ad writers are imperfect humans but they seem to get the job done right. That's one difference, and the other is they use the term "New and Improved" instead of "New Light". In both cases it's the same old bullshit.

Dave

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get a life -- 10 facts

by joelbear in

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i thought it would be interesting for people to just post a few things about themselves so we can get to know each other just a bit.. try posting 10 facts about your life.. joel.

1. i was born and raised in south georgia.. 2. my favorite subject in school was math.. 3. i was in the fulltime service (bethel and pioneer) for 4 years.. 4. my favorite color is blue.. 5. mitch and i have been together over 12 years.. 6. we live in a suburb of atlanta georgia.. 7. we love to eat out and have friends over for dinner and board games.. 8. the only sport i was ever any good at is tennis.. 9. my favorite tv show of all time is the simpsons.. 10. we are both naturists and wish we could lay on the beach naked every day.

seven006

<<9. I'm a closet geek. I love software and hardware, and feel naked without my Palm pilot.>>

Ya, me too. (snicker)

Cowboy.

Whoops, posted under Dave's ID again, sorry Dave

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pictures from camping

by Mulan in

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at last the long awaited camping photos.

i will post more as i get them scanned.. here is princess' navel piercing.. .

here is venice, reading her book.

seven006

Hey Ven,

Your books on backwards. Do you have your glasses on your head so that you can think clearer? What's in that little bottle on your arm rest?
Looks like your a good sleeper Ven. What are you dreaming about?

Dave

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get a life -- 10 facts

by joelbear in

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i thought it would be interesting for people to just post a few things about themselves so we can get to know each other just a bit.. try posting 10 facts about your life.. joel.

1. i was born and raised in south georgia.. 2. my favorite subject in school was math.. 3. i was in the fulltime service (bethel and pioneer) for 4 years.. 4. my favorite color is blue.. 5. mitch and i have been together over 12 years.. 6. we live in a suburb of atlanta georgia.. 7. we love to eat out and have friends over for dinner and board games.. 8. the only sport i was ever any good at is tennis.. 9. my favorite tv show of all time is the simpsons.. 10. we are both naturists and wish we could lay on the beach naked every day.

seven006

Hey Prisca,

What's with you and the lime Jell-O dream? Are you trying to tell us something about yourself? Everyone knows I'm not gay and that Jon is just a friend. But you keep popping up with this lime Jell-O dream. Do you wake up stuck to your sheets in the morning? Are you secretly some kind of crazed sex monster with a fruit fetish? Are you feeling sexually frustrated and need a older, caring, gentle, big brother type to give you the preverbal back rub?

I'm here for you Prisca and I have a nice fruit salad I would like to introduce you to. Do you like whipped cream?

Big hug crazy lady.

Dave

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get a life -- 10 facts

by joelbear in

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i thought it would be interesting for people to just post a few things about themselves so we can get to know each other just a bit.. try posting 10 facts about your life.. joel.

1. i was born and raised in south georgia.. 2. my favorite subject in school was math.. 3. i was in the fulltime service (bethel and pioneer) for 4 years.. 4. my favorite color is blue.. 5. mitch and i have been together over 12 years.. 6. we live in a suburb of atlanta georgia.. 7. we love to eat out and have friends over for dinner and board games.. 8. the only sport i was ever any good at is tennis.. 9. my favorite tv show of all time is the simpsons.. 10. we are both naturists and wish we could lay on the beach naked every day.

seven006

Mommy,

I'm glad I can make you laugh. I like to make people laugh because I have a warm heart and I'm a nice guy. I have recently found an article about guys that make people laugh. It came from Absolute Science Facts Magazine.

Here is the article that I cut and pasted from the magazine:

Take care

Dave