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  “This generation will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.

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  waton

  The wording also means, that once all the events listed, like "the tribulation greater than the world has ever seen", have occurred during that special generation, it's members, will pass away, die.

  The generation is not the anointed, wt's favoured, because they pass away at the onset, not after the end of the end times.

  It can not be the wt's sheep either, because they are supposed to never pass away at all, even after the end generation has run out of time.

  In our family, 4 generations have appeared, and generated since 1914, and counting.

  wt's . core doctrine since 1914: In this generation, Millions now living will never die, is an empty promise, false prophecy, profitable may be, but patently false. pft.
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  Why are Jehovah's Witnesses determined to be WRONG (about saying JUH-HO-VUH and JEE-Suss)?

  by Terry in

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  all throughout history in greek, hebrew, and latin languages - there was no j sound!

  no jay sound.. .

  why did christians start using a non-hebrew name for the son of god?

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  waton

  BECAUSE IN GERMAN, J is pronounced like Y.

  Terry, not so, the Y in the european languages is pronounced like in ueber,

  the end of the alphabet : ex why zee (zet), sounds there : ex uebsilon* tzet. see also Ypres.

  Important too that jesus never used the name when addressing the father. recording it would be of utmost importance if it mattered.

  * umlaut u"
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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

  by Fisherman in

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  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  waton

  the actual character from the story in Genesis. ‘Mitochondrial Eve’ : Jeffro

  no misrepresentation here. I thought it was just fitting that the scientists would use the mystical ladies
  of genesis in their nomenclature.

  Good point about the single primitive male the "son of Adam" too, he was found to reside in the former Soviet Union territory, probably still is.
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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

  by Fisherman in

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  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  waton

  Because Eve did not produce the seed, the Messiah, that would crush the serpent’s head.Also, a sinful imperfect woman cannot produce a perfect seed let alone any woman producing seed

  Eve was to become the mother of all those humans living on Earth and she did. grand grandly.

  All connected with the imaginary lady in the OP, where of the genetic pool of the first female. including noah, judah, david, Mary, jesus, Fr. Franz.
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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  waton

  Because Eve did not produce the seed, the Messiah, that would crush the serpent’s head.

  fisherman, yes she did, no human, and all the linage you talk about somehow has a human connection, exits without the genetic contribution of the first lady.

  Workers in that field traced all humans through the widely dispersed, well traveled "5 daughter of Eve", check it out.

  science will triumph over fantasies.
  
  
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  WHEN is the Kingdom of God coming?

  by Fisherman in

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  when is the kingdom of god coming?.

  on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!

  the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .

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  So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

  right, the moment you start speculating and publish your fantasies as wt does, you are guaranteed to be wrong. current example:

  wt proclaimed that the anointed generation will pass to heaven at the onset of the great tribulation.-- guaranteed to be wrong, because jesus said they would pass only after everything predicted is done and over with.

  like the kingdom song has it: "The kingdom is here, let it come let it come."
  
  
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  Simple Question Re 1914

  by Slidin Fast in

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  wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

  and the end times.

  a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

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  It is only logical that during the parausia it would be just like all these previous times. So here we are 108 years later born in to when the preaching work began. So

  fisherman, only persons born ~ < 1900 could be held accountable to not respond to the 1914 erroneous wt proposals.

  There is therefore something absolutely wrong to the parallels with the present, you and wt refer to.

  Only parallel, overlapping groups are now trotted out to save face. but face it: the wt prediction game as inspired truth, or a spirit directed group is over.
  
  
  
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  Simple Question Re 1914

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

  and the end times.

  a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

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  swept away by armageddon? surely applies to the anointed but by the same token 1914 must also apply to those that take no note.

  The way wt applied 1914 to the then anointed was to promise them the last supper on earth, and breakfast in heaven. date was right (all are), promise wrong, premise wrong too.

  what were those that "took note" supposed do? advertise the talk: " The world has ended, Millions now Living will never die" and be saved by / because that wt work? btw:

  the anointed will not be swept away by armageddon, but swept upward at the outset of the Great Tribulation according to wt's latest light.
  By contrast Jesus promised them survival of the end, the great tribulation.
  
  
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  WHEN is the Kingdom of God coming?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when is the kingdom of god coming?.

  on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!

  the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .

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  arrival (WHEN).

  With some wt writers priding themselves as latter day members of the original "governing body" class, it follows that the injunction, that "it is not given to you to understand time and timings" given to the original 11, applies to the governing body today. . That assumption is proven by their 100% failure rate on that subject matter.

  What is bring red into Daniel could apply to that exclusion note too.

  Hopefully something better will rise from the ashes, Dinosaurs sudden demise proves an encouraging precedent.
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  WHEN is the Kingdom of God coming?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when is the kingdom of god coming?.

  on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!

  the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .

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  Jesus' followers asked a similar question, as recorded in Acts 1: 6. Time and timing is the domain of the creator/father.

  The universe is ruled with very successful laws. Jerusalem, ~ 2000 years ago was no exception, --stories of breaches of these laws, better defined now than then, such as walking on water, water turning into wine, cemeteries emptied, -- notwithstanding.

  As written by Luke, Jesus was stating the obvious.