i have a question.. have every member of the governing body (past and present) been american citizens?.
while i understand that some may have been born outside of the us, ultimately to serve in the world hq long term, i imagine that they all had to become 'americans'?.
no zombie.
America was a natural to have such entities develop. immigrants, energetic often the outsider, from religious splinter groups, from all nationalities, reflecting much the percentages of the US population make up, Russel, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, and
ready to return the scheme to their countries of origin.
nothing new here, if the first Abrahamic faith was Jewish, the third"s late offspring: American. Vox populi vox dei.
revelation 20:2-3. and he [jesus] laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil, and satan, and bound him a thousand years,.
and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.. we see that the millennial reign begins with satan being bound.
he will be bound for 1000 years.
The wt elite gets righteousness, the ransom benefits instantly, the jw rank and file have to earn it through 1000 year servitude. get that dude? and only obedience slavery, even it defies logic is the only way tp get you evn through armageddon, into the earth inherited by the meek wt exclusively.
revelation 20:2-3. and he [jesus] laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil, and satan, and bound him a thousand years,.
and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.. we see that the millennial reign begins with satan being bound.
he will be bound for 1000 years.
The dual class "Christianity", one with the New Covenant and one without it, that the WT teaches was unknown to the apostles.
SB, yes, that is the big void in their memorial/communion talk. Wt writer's understanding of the 12 tribes of the Israel of God. all members of all the tribes were in the Law, / are in the new covenant.
new covenant for all, for forgiveness of sin. kingdom covenant later, if you are a male virgin and die by the axe.
this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….
and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.
all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.
Rm: and what an emergency!, some of his guardian angels had discovered the sex appeal of the "daughters of men"!. That , or they, could have been stopped early on. The response was great, but late. and
You can't really blame wt, for using that fear inspiring late overreaction. , the special emissianary of the GR, Jesus of Nazareth, endorsed, used the deluge story himself.
this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….
and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.
all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.
Woken from the JC. :
That is actually a good post. It shows that our reasoning has its limits. our perception, living in thin, 5 km deep gas envelope, skinny around around a globe with a 6000 km radius. Incomprehensible for us, that energy is undestroyable, is uncreated, existing within infinite time, --- really does not sink in. so, yes, rocks do not lift themselves, do not speak the good news.
this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….
and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.
all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.
like the question I heard once was that if God was all powerful, can he make a rock so heavy that even He can’t pick it up.
WfJc: believe it or not, That was around in the 1930ies, surely as an old query from even 100 years earlier, among the loaded questions that defy logic.
how about "What is one thing God cannot do, even with all her power, according to scripture ? --- lie, and err of course . that leaves wtBtS inc suspended in midair without support.
this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….
and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.
all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.
Imagine an Emergency Responder learns of an impending terrorist plot to detonate a bomb.
pp: thank you for pointing that out. It is the risk of a lengthy post to have every word count, and not everybody has such a long attention span or even time to read.
Fact is too, that the deity is actually responding not to a threat of his own making only. see Rev 11:18: " God will destroy those destroying the Earth" .many, not just wtBtS inc agree, the planet needs a clean up. humans are a ticking time bomb. but yeah,
making the fate of 8 billion humans depend on their reaction to wtBtS inc. is a stretch.
this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….
and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.
all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.
The fault in my analogy is, of course,
pp: the fault is that you failed to mention that the threat of the explosion is planned, the bomb planted by the all powerful deity himself, and the timer is claimed to go off at a given "day and hour", only known to its creator.
sounds like a protection racket, unless there is another hook, namely that that bomb is somehow the only way to deal with a characteristic of the music lovers, , even the band. .
In any case, think of the story of Jonah, who was fooled by the ultimatum-setting deity too.
The thread vanished, the ultimatum expired. the fuse fizzled. All that preaching not for the good of the preachers. but,
Nineveh does not exist any more, -- surely their genes though? Isis?
here are some questions to ask witnesses.
how would you alter or improve or add to them?.
transparency questions.
although she is long dead, I am supposedly her contemporary....
Nitty Gritty, not really, con temporary is just that temporary, together traveling through time for a time , her time. you are now alone. contemporaries no more.
How is it possible to maintain that Jesus was teaching that the 1914 generation would not pass away?
It's obvious that we have not understood this correctly.
NG: My sub questions to you on this please: --- to show why, and it has nothing to do with overlap.
Jesus said that in effect: " this generation would pass away after all these things occur"
a) Did he mean by "all" the destruction of the temple, the city of Jerusalem,? --
b) would that mean in the 2nd fulfillment 'Babylon the great, Armageddon'? if so,
c) How do you support wt's teaching that the anointed generation will be called to heaven before Armageddon at the outset of the GT?
thank you: great discussion!
i don't think anyone has mentioned that the february 2021 study wt (p. 15, 16; par.
8) changed wt's long standing view on headship within the congregation.
wt used to view all baptized males as being the head of all baptized sisters.. this view led to such absurdities as a sister having to wear a head covering on a bible study because her baptized 10 year old son was sitting in on the study with her.
If a woman's hair is by nature longer than a man's, then it follows that her hair is her head covering.
:fujw: Many ladies in this neck of the woods have very pert short hairdos. better than men's; when viewed from behind. seeing those that "love the first, [forward] places in the synagogue".
from that rearward perspective you can not tell the difference between male and female, very telling!
