worship fills a human need. It is a human invention. Cain & Abel were not commanded to worship.
we know our end is unavoidable, we want to fill that present and coming void. with presents.
Posts by waton
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17Why does God need to be worshipped?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe bible exhorts us to “worship the one who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”—deuteronomy 4:24; revelation 14:7.. insight on the scriptures, volume 2 pp 1200-1202. worshipone of the hebrew words conveying the idea of worship (ʽa·vadhʹ) basically means “serve.” (ge 14:4; 15:13; 29:15) serving or worshiping jehovah required obedience to all of his commands, doing his will as a person exclusively devoted to him.
(ex 19:5; de 30:15-20; jos 24:14, 15) therefore, for an individual to engage in any ritual or act of devotion toward any other gods signified his abandoning true worship.—de 11:13-17; jg 3:6, 7.another hebrew term that can denote worship is hish·ta·chawahʹ, which primarily means “bow down” (ge 18:2), or do obeisance.
(see obeisance.
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Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......
by mickbobcat inwhen i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?
i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.
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waton
But, where does that leave JW believers NOW?
SB: it leaves them slaving for their hoped salvation, for jehovah aka the wt bts. , because obviously their saying: "salvation we owe" can not be said until well "after the thousand years. have ended". and they will be toiling on land that belongs to the wt too, because it is the "anointed" aka wtbts, who are "the meek [that\ will inherit the Earth".
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I guess they are now encouraged to just die if they want assurance so that they can wake up in paradise?
Yes, wt can more easily promise the underground route to paradise, but strongly imply, for the old ones, that tunneling will only work if you leave your estate to "the society" with an elder as an executor of the testament.
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Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......
by mickbobcat inwhen i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?
i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.
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waton
The good news of the kingdom is primarily a message for those living during the great tribulation. The message during the age of grace is the "ministry of reconciliation". The WT completely ignores and rejects this ministry.
SB: excellent reminder. for us older ones. in FF"s days we taught that the great tribulation had started in 1914, was interrupted in 1918, during the hiatus, until Armageddon,thus: the great crowd of OS would be able to scripturally " come out.of the great tribulation" .Now,
according to wt teaching, the great crowd does not really exist yet, or , anymore,, because the great tribulation has not started yet. and
when it does, the GB, all anointed will be already gone.
The "anointed" generation of 1914 will have passed before all things have occurred.
Jesus was wrong, wt right.
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Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......
by mickbobcat inwhen i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?
i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.
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waton
it all was done to bolster the sincerely held illusion to be linked to great cosmic issues.
beethoven, bach did it through music, Einstein through equations,
Politicians,---
let us older ones ( I am past 90 ) reflect back on the good lives we had.
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Anyone notice how when some of us older ones were in the cult.......
by mickbobcat inwhen i was a kid in the late sixties the type of books we would study was very intense compared to the bull shit pablum that they put out today?
i mean the finished mystery and others now its these stupid books that don't dive deep into the beliefs.
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waton
well, the Ezekiel book just being studied this week teaches wheel suspension by Holy Spirit. 4x4 too, no steering wheel required.
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If god exists why the Galaxy Andromeda is flying towards us ?
by Jewtwo ingalaxy andromeda flying towards the milcky way is a fact so why god did that ?
i don't see the point, the galaxies will enter in collision in a very long time but i don't understand why a lovely god would do this it feels stupid.
(or there is no god).
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waton
To add, why did god at one time let huge asteroids hit earth killing just about all living things on it ? RAF.
because "god" loves survivors, (us in this case) if you are here. it is proof your ancestors survived it all.
He trust you or some our offspring to survive again.
"god" uses evolution's procreation by the survivors to run the universe efficiently.long live sex.In the meantime enjoy lfe, whether your offspring will be here after the next one or not.
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If god exists why the Galaxy Andromeda is flying towards us ?
by Jewtwo ingalaxy andromeda flying towards the milcky way is a fact so why god did that ?
i don't see the point, the galaxies will enter in collision in a very long time but i don't understand why a lovely god would do this it feels stupid.
(or there is no god).
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waton
jewtwo, Consider not faulting the creative processes, but religion , wt interpretation of them.
Gen 1:1. in the beginning God created-- the earth. not, really the Earth was created out of the debri of unimaginable violent endings of stars.
shock waves so violent to weld gold, uranium together (our sun fuses only Hydrogen, to helium the very lightest gases.
Death is part of life. You are healthy, because some of your family died before they had children.
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If god exists why the Galaxy Andromeda is flying towards us ?
by Jewtwo ingalaxy andromeda flying towards the milcky way is a fact so why god did that ?
i don't see the point, the galaxies will enter in collision in a very long time but i don't understand why a lovely god would do this it feels stupid.
(or there is no god).
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waton
jt yes, welcome to the forum. while some features of the universe seem strange to us, they are what they are, and best of all, carry us.
best to adapt, to survive, we, your family have!! so far. so good. as I said,
physicists actually teach that the merger to Milkomeda will benefit long term survivors.
Brian Greene in "Until the End of Time" page 258.
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If god exists why the Galaxy Andromeda is flying towards us ?
by Jewtwo ingalaxy andromeda flying towards the milcky way is a fact so why god did that ?
i don't see the point, the galaxies will enter in collision in a very long time but i don't understand why a lovely god would do this it feels stupid.
(or there is no god).
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waton
The merged galaxies called Milkomeda bsw, will have the benefit to be massive enough to resist internally and much longer the accelerated expansion of the rest of the universe, a fact that will ensure the integrity of its individual small entities, like wt believers, who, having everlasting live, need all the protection they can get. ha ha.
Did warwick include milkomeda in it's scenario of pronisses> yet?
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The difference between the ministry examples and reality
by purrpurr init seems to me that there is a world of difference between the textbook 'skits,examples on the platform' ministry and the reality of the door to door work in real life.
surely for a bible study coming into the jw religion and having seen all these perfect examples, to be faced with the bitter truth when they do start knocking on the doors must be really jarring?.
surely they will either conclude that they are rubbish at the ministry or that they have been lied to?.
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waton
The skits are totally unrealistic, no normal person will submit to such simplistic information exchange,
This exercise is to dull the members minds, reinforce their beliefs internally.
If some creative soul adds some spice, humour, the better, it still serves wt's purpose to fill the mind with wt think to the exclusion of real live brain joy.