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Time, times and half a time - nerd time
by Anony Mous in
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2. beliefs
so, the famous 607 calculation to 1914 involves the above prophecy.

the common explanation is that time is one unit, times is an unsubstantiated number of units.. to prove you can make it say any date, we must write it as a formula:.

date = t + nt + 0.5t where n >= 2. so simplified:.
waton

Stay alive till 2075! Sounds like history repeating itself.
O: yeah, NOW wt leaders in effect say again: " Millions now living will never die " like they said said 100 years ago (1918-1925) , another infamous centenary.
The overlapping generation is easy:
2 centenarians overlapping by 20 years each*, reads
2x 100 = 200 - (2x20) = 160 + 1914 = 2074
+1 Year to sort out Armageddon = 2075. which is
the ~~anniversary,~~ sorry I misspoke, it is the centenary, or 100st anniversary, lest we forget, of 1975.
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Time, times and half a time - nerd time
by Anony Mous in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
so, the famous 607 calculation to 1914 involves the above prophecy.

the common explanation is that time is one unit, times is an unsubstantiated number of units.. to prove you can make it say any date, we must write it as a formula:.

date = t + nt + 0.5t where n >= 2. so simplified:.
waton

The overlapping generation is easy:
2 centenarians overlapping by 20 years each*, reads
2x 100 = 200 - (2x20) = 160 + 1914 = 2074
+1 Year to sort out Armageddon = 2075. wich is
the anniversary for another of wt's already proven false prophecies
because it can not possibly be the partakers, overlapping or not.
* assuming that the under lapper was 20 year old in 1914.
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The Mysterious Missing Islam.....
by snare&racket in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i've discussed this before but not in this context alone.. i remember being about 14 years old, 1994 and starting a study in the uk with a charming muslim from the congo.

he was a very pleasant middle aged guy with a big family, two wives, always the most hospitable.

at the time the watchtower had a book on many religions, a thick red book called 'mankind's search for god' so i would read and discuss the section on islam with him.. interestingly, but not surprising, many details they had were wrong about islam and he would explain how and correct me.
waton

Just replace the Elder's titles with "Mullah," give them the power to execute rather than just shun,
take "ALL", and add the 2 last letters of the jw's god name,
Make "Jesus" a minor prophet like na-hum. declare the Koran to be the "new scrolls"
Really apply the bible's dress code to "sisters" Give the ladies their own, larger, room in the KD Hall ,
take out the chairs,
mandate beards, ---Voila,
Many jw males would live with that. rather than have their throats cut. and their widows, orphan daughters join the harens of the survivors.
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Christmas star of Bethlehem to appear for 1st. Time in 800 years
by nowwhat? in
1. watchtower
2. bible
as spock would say " fascinating".. with 2020 being such a terrible year.

are people of the christian faith going to look at this as a sign of god, to give them hope and renew their faith?

coincidence?
waton

For a specific locale, now astro event can pinpoint the site from all directions for long, a walking traveler.
The only analogy would be the "Christmas tree" markers release by the pathfinder "Mosquito" aircraft to start their night time bombing runs at that point. Even then, the marking lights lasted only minutes.
May be an early version of the fire in a tethered montgolfiere?
"Bethlehem" is a story only, face it.
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Why is the Watchtower "soft" on China?
by Sad-u-see in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
let's see, wt is "banned" in china.

the wt preaches that reaching everyone on the planet is so important, yet they barely have a footprint in china.

if saving lives was so important, why do they not aggressively proselytize in china?
waton

The phillipines years ago was noted for the beheading of pioneers --- men and women.
tl 123, That was far from the Philippines official stand. You could not find a more tolerant country folks, except in the radicalized south. but
wait until China extends the red nine dot line another 500 km, 1/3 out.
PS: or were thinking of Magellan? the martyr, who started to make the country Catholic, without which wt inc. would never have prospered there.
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Why is the Watchtower "soft" on China?
by Sad-u-see in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
let's see, wt is "banned" in china.

the wt preaches that reaching everyone on the planet is so important, yet they barely have a footprint in china.

if saving lives was so important, why do they not aggressively proselytize in china?
waton

, silence Russia, Russia not China?
because wt inc. has no real ~~kingdom~~ estate interests in China.
No open presence in, - silence on - Islamic countries roo. in both cases , imprisoned Witnesses would be slave labour, slaving for the prison authorities, not wt inc anymore.
Even GB members do not want to stick their necks out. of course
"Jesus" said: "if they persecute in one city, go to another".
"Sad-u-see" morning smile, clever!
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Loyalty to God ( or the Society ) Before The Familiar
by BluesBrother in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this week's midweek meeting has an item on this theme.

as usual there is a video to show:-.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodbibleprinciples/pub-jwbai_201611_1_video.
waton

It is wt inc. , the elders they appointed who have to return.
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Christmas star of Bethlehem to appear for 1st. Time in 800 years
by nowwhat? in
1. watchtower
2. bible
as spock would say " fascinating".. with 2020 being such a terrible year.

are people of the christian faith going to look at this as a sign of god, to give them hope and renew their faith?

coincidence?
waton

every 800 years? no wonder the ancients turned to t stargazing to try to predict the future, because astronomy has a good record on that., now reaching back and forwaed in time and place thousands of years, to the second the kilometer.
wt predictions. 14, 25, 75, 75 are a complete failure by comparison.
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Loyalty to God ( or the Society ) Before The Familiar
by BluesBrother in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this week's midweek meeting has an item on this theme.

as usual there is a video to show:-.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodbibleprinciples/pub-jwbai_201611_1_video.
waton

In the film, the son seems to be an above average kid, does not leave a messy room, when mom checks.!! so,
The parents decide do break the relationship. On wt orders. For wt writer's fear that they too might discover something bad enough to give a good reason leave altogether.
How to atone for this? to dull the pain?, create more pain! pioneer! aka self flagellation. Funny, how
All these sob stories, whether it is "Andre' "or Andrea, always end up with the lead character pioneering', like in the fairy tales: "and they lived happily ever after" implied.
Who pays for all this?
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Christmas star of Bethlehem to appear for 1st. Time in 800 years
by nowwhat? in
1. watchtower
2. bible
as spock would say " fascinating".. with 2020 being such a terrible year.

are people of the christian faith going to look at this as a sign of god, to give them hope and renew their faith?

coincidence?
waton

The 2 planets are in the night sky right now, You can get the perspective, an idea of the depth of space, with Saturn ~ twice as far away as Jupiter, and 1/4 dimmer, despite the shiny , icy rings. ---look west, then 30 degrees south and 20 degrees up.
Outstanding guiding "stars" ??, only in bible stories.
CS to you all, ( clear skies) as the astro phils wii greet you)
P.S. Christmas here seems to be kind of a cargo cult, hoping that Rudolph will home in on the chimney with the gaudiest light display.

waton

Posts by waton

O: yeah, NOW wt leaders in effect say again: " Millions now living will never die " like they said said 100 years ago (1918-1925) , another infamous centenary.

The overlapping generation is easy: