Where are you still going, coming home from meetings?
Posts by waton
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20Breaking: PIMI wife getting food basket from farms to table via WT society
by goingthruthemotions inbottom line is this.
she came in from the weekly meeting, we sitting and talking and she said.
the society is giving us some food.
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Restrictions imposed by the government that affect our activities should be followed. —Rom. 13:1.
by Anders Andersen inin their covid19 related instructions watchtower writes:.
restrictions imposed by the government that affect our activities should be followed.
what changed?
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waton
It is the same as the reason we did not have WW 3. The leader abstained, not for fear of god, but because they , their families, their wealth would be destroyed too, not just the rank and file in the trenches, cities.
Jws, Personally working the public, exchanging "life giving" material, "bringing in the harvest" would be too much for the true leadership of the "true religion."
Heaven can wait.
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I may have finally figured out why some today think we are responsible for what others did centuries ago....it's in the bible
by StoneWall inwe all know how adam and eve are supposedly responsible for selling all of mankind into sin and thus becoming "slaves to sin".so what they did (if it's not a fairy tale) affected all of the humans that would come after them.then at exodus 34:7 it goes on to show the sins of the father being passed down to the third and fourth generations7 "keeping lovingkindness for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin; and that will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, upon the third and upon the fourth generation.
" (asv)even though i no longer look to the bible or regard it as i once did, i'm just trying to figure where some in today's world can even get the idea others are responsible for things that were done before they were born.
only religion can make people feel guilty for things they never did/done or were a part of and then make others feel as if they're entitled to something..
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waton
I was just trying to figure where these people think we owe them anything for what happened in the past. I've never owned slaves and they've never been slaves
SW: compensation to pay to former slave families? on the contrary, compared to their relatives left behind in the 'dark continent', they have greatly benefited. Let us allow them to pay us the difference in equity, standard of living, sanitation, health care , innovation, hope for the future, between our coloured and their stay at home relatives, (easy with generic tracing)
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Happy birthday smiddy
by smiddy3 ina young 81 ,may there be many more.. but feeling about 91 at the present time ..
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waton
congrats to have made it this far with us, travelling around the sun. Wishing you many re-runs, feeling like 91, body-wise, it's a day to take it easy, pace yourself. If ot is the mind, a bad dream perhaps, another cup of coffee, good thoughts.
Hopefully in 10 years you will ne feeling even better, more content
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Rolf Furuli Disfellowshipped Last Week
by Sea Breeze inwell known norway elder and watchtower doctrine apologist, (rolf furuli) was disfellowshipped a few days ago for the crime of expressing opinions contrary to some watchtower dictates.. like wt leadership in the past, they have no problem eating their own..
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waton
lawsuits against the WT for abuse of power, child abuse negligence, and mental abuse from destroyed families due to frivolous violations of non-scriptural rules.
SB: have not heard of these
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How Could We Have Been So Heartless?
by BluesBrother ini am addressing here those who, like me, spent decades in the organisation that we called “the truth”.
perhaps like me you were brought up in it from an early age.
looking back now i wonder that i could have been so heartless as to believe that the mass slaughter of billions of people was “good news”.
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waton
The name of the deity implies that he will become who ever he has to. and the followers made in his image. so: imagine
imagine what it does to a mind, to have to memories all the gory details of billions of beings that you promised to resurrect, recreate in the first and general resurrection.
perhaps you can spare yourself some sick details, since all the resurrected will not marry have reproductive powers.
but given that the creator has given free reign to see what will succeed, viruses even,
what is the big s deal that all die, in the wt story, all at once.
Taught my daughter a rhyme: If they say "you will not die. it's a lie.
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A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist
by Giles Gray ini would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.
i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.
i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.
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waton
The end will come....the outset of the Great Tribulation....Armageddon....the beginning of the end....last days
See how difficult it is to separate which one they want you to understand? Because they really don't want you to know which.OTWO: you are right, that is why it is good to get that idea analyzed.
The anointed generation is wrong, long before it starts group overlapping
The 33 and 1914 generations are the normal people perishing, passing away, period. proof:
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Expectation vs Reality
by joey jojo in.
just wanted to put this out there for any lurkers.. as someone that grew up during the 70s and 80s, we were promised that we would be in the first picture long ago.
if you are still on the fence, please let this sink in for a while..
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waton
when Armageddon and the New System was supposed to happen from the year 1914.
s3: why do you say "when", it all was supposed to happen in 1914. Rapture and all.
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A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist
by Giles Gray ini would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.
i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.
i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.
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waton
rank-and-file partakers seem to have the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) goal of smearing them as posers and/or mentally unstable.I wonder why?
V: If they read their bible, they should know that all should partake, regardless of origin or destiny.
2) The count in the spring equinox thing, shows that their claim "we, the exclusive truth bearer, our meetings prove that " is proven wrong by the count, if the memorial of all meetings is wrong, therefore the anointed generation taught there is wrong.
remember, wt started the OS dont partake deal, in the 1930, ~ 90 years ago, because there were too many partakers. Now, we have again too many partakers. may be
They should re-invent the secondary heavenly class, then the "everlasting life on earth" idea, when it is bound to fail, will not be held against them as false prophets.
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A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist
by Giles Gray ini would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.
i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.
i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.
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waton
Guarantee they’ll have enough in offshore accounts to have to do that OTWO. Grenada here we come!!
Ds: The move from Warwick to Grenada or the Isle of Wight , from near New Jersey to Jersey would be easy, but
The wt doctrine calls for all anointed sealed partakers to be called to their heavenly reward at the outset of the Great Tribulation, not just the Governing Body, so:
how about the other 14 000? dispersed everywhere, not of the Governing Body? whose' bodies the angels also will have to dispose, off, like -- puff--gone--. and among these might be the real wt victims, with a vow of poverty.