see the thread: David Splanes's incredible shrinking generation. a few days ago.
Posts by waton
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2Josephs generation
by road to nowhere ini got to thinking about the video last week.
splane has reuben at 27, joseph at teenage.
is this the same joseph that he uses in the generation chart mess with a generation spanning about a jillion years?.
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Thunderous Applause Around The Stadium
by Number 6 ingrowing up in the 70's and 80's in the jw religion who remembers the massive stadium gigs the watchtower used to hold?.
we used to denounce false religion in the starkest of terms.
we were right and by god we were letting anyone who listened know it.
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waton
yeah and then the resolutions and the shout: aey or I? .pre-convention work, 8 day assemblies,
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Random thoughts on the Ransom
by waton inransom ramblings: 3 perfect lives lost, plus untold others, 1000s of religions formed, all over a badly told story.
inconsistencies, randomly selected: .
the tree of life was never a prohibited dietary supplement (if you have it you will not die).
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waton
ransom ramblings: 3 perfect lives lost, plus untold others, 1000s of religions formed, all over a badly told story. inconsistencies, randomly selected:
The tree of life was never a prohibited dietary supplement (if you have it you will not die). Even if you had sinned, the TOL would cancel the effect. The TOL retained that magic effect even after the fall, because the rotating sward had to be set spinning to stop TOL's use. Just destroying the good veggie would have been not good enough? question: did the TOL have that quality before the talking snake incident? from the start? then:
Eve failed in at least 2 aspects as a helper.
1) she should have always mixed some TOL into any salad, soup she served. ,or as an appetizer, or desert. it would have always neutralized the effect of any toxic substance like the forbidden fruit. and
2) first things first! she should have made sure that she got pregnant*** to have children right away, exempt from the genetic flaws that were later acquired and required the ransom, the required human sacrifice to correct, not to mention our medical arts.
*** an easy task with perfect allures and the dress code of the times. A failure of the snake too, not to sneak in perfect kids by the now perfected sex techniques , before, - having to fight the "universal sovereignty" issue with only an imperfect cast.
I am sure the original writer did so as a joke too.
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10 Questions For Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 inexcellent video to help jws think.. https://youtu.be/e-1tqjjdz3o.
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waton
response? rather read a transcript than watch.
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According to History
by Gorbatchov inaccording to history, now only a reichstag fire is needed to eliminate democracy.
it is very likely that this will happen.. g..
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waton
well the writers of Nebuchadnezzar's dream were fostering such theories, dreamers.
statue with golden head and toes of clay, not re-enforced with iron.
Burning Congress, the White House,? some real poor neighbours are just blocks away.
Stretching past the beltway into Baltimore Philly.
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Resurrection, Reconstruction? What is it? It never made sense to me. Your opinion.
by Wasanelder Once ini never had much faith in whatever resurrection was.
what appealed to me about jw doctrines was the rejection of the "it's a mystery" defense of the indefensible.
when i would ask how going into non existence could be reversed when all the atomic parts of who we are had been scattered for thousands of years, the answer was "jehovah can do anything".
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waton
Many people need a "resurrection" even before they die. Think of the dementia, alzheimers, sedated patients, that need to be brought back up to standards before replication. If you want to spool a life backward, what is the ideal level, with the rest of the time just memory?
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Resurrection, Reconstruction? What is it? It never made sense to me. Your opinion.
by Wasanelder Once ini never had much faith in whatever resurrection was.
what appealed to me about jw doctrines was the rejection of the "it's a mystery" defense of the indefensible.
when i would ask how going into non existence could be reversed when all the atomic parts of who we are had been scattered for thousands of years, the answer was "jehovah can do anything".
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waton
good question, never worried about that, beyond my rebuilding ability of stuff broken.
It has to do with the mystery of consciousness, the picture we create of the universe in our brains/minds.
The bible stories are not the answer.
How about the dead that came out of their tombs during the time pf jesus' death, and went up into jerusalem?
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Has anyone ever turn down being appointed an Elder or MS?
by Davros inhas anyone turned it down or know of someone who did turn down being an elder or ms?.
yes, it should be one of the biggest privileges a brother can get !!
(how do i put the barfy icon in?
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waton
I refused appointment as a circuit overseer, during a successful (with help from the US Airforce) stint as a "special pioneer" couple in a dysfunctional congregation.
The "Superior Authority" debacle had just shaken my faith in the calling and ability of the wt society, and living the sterile live of propping up their flawed doctrinal house of cards, and the wt power structure, was just too bleak a prospect.
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David Splane's incredible shrinking generation
by waton inin this mid-week's video, the speaker talking about the marriages of jacob, and joseph, mentions, that jacob had 4 female bearers of his children; therefore the sons were closely spaced in age, perhaps born at the rate of 4 per year, in total much less then 10 years apart with joseph being the youngest at the time , perhaps 17. so:.
the overlapping group generation championed by the same speaker, in the earlier teaching refers to "-- joseph and his generation died --" as key generation proof ext.
we have the tacit admission that his core contemporary family generation group spans less than a decade.
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waton
Phizzy3 hours ago
The next generation for you and me is when our first child is born
P Right, and even wt often uses that understanding when talking about family histories.
In the OP I wanted to point out the inconstancy of using "Joseph's generation" as the starting benchmark of that doctrine, now it's revealed to be less than <10 years long. By contrast, the length of an overlapping group in the current anointed generation, - to be longer than >78 years, as said by D.S.in his chart video.
That is a stretch to 10 times longer today, All taken from the book of Genesis, where people are said to live ~ 10 times longer than we today. The incredible generation that just shrunk 1000 %.
just saying, not endorsing.
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David Splane's incredible shrinking generation
by waton inin this mid-week's video, the speaker talking about the marriages of jacob, and joseph, mentions, that jacob had 4 female bearers of his children; therefore the sons were closely spaced in age, perhaps born at the rate of 4 per year, in total much less then 10 years apart with joseph being the youngest at the time , perhaps 17. so:.
the overlapping group generation championed by the same speaker, in the earlier teaching refers to "-- joseph and his generation died --" as key generation proof ext.
we have the tacit admission that his core contemporary family generation group spans less than a decade.
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waton
In this mid-week's video, The speaker talking about the marriages of Jacob, and Joseph, mentions, that Jacob had 4 female bearers of his children; therefore the sons were closely spaced in age, perhaps born at the rate of 4 per year, in total much less then 10 years apart with Joseph being the youngest at the time , perhaps 17. so:
The overlapping group generation championed by the same speaker, in the earlier teaching refers to "-- Joseph and his generation died --" as key generation proof ext. Now
we have the tacit admission that his core contemporary family generation group spans less than a decade.
decadent doctrines, discredited, dead on arrival.