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  Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according to the watchtower:.

  who received the ransom payment?.

  why did the ransomer need to be paid?.

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  waton

  JWdeepthinker: how about the "children of the resurrection"? they are not children of Adam, inheriting and carrying those dented, faulty bread pan genes forward!

  The whole ransom idea is based on the snake talking to the naked lady. Are you seriously believing that kid's level story impinging on humanity?

  ps.The wt ransom is complicated, because they insert a class of people, the Armageddon survivors, into the equation. A group that never personally pays the ultimate price, death, therefore needs to slave 1000 years to earn life. For us, the dormant ransom effect, we now live under, extended another < 10058 years. yikes!
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  Heinrich Himmler and the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a letter written in july 1944 by heinrich himmler, one of the most powerful men in nazi germany.. i have encountered quotes taken from this letter before but i have never read the letter in its entirety.

  this is a translated copy from a russian website:.

  http://www.k-istine.ru/sects/iegova_witness/iegova_witness_himmler-02.htm.

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  waton

  July 1944? That was 8 month away from the Russians storming the Reichstag. At that date, The Thousand Year Reich was starting to implode. Delusional to make plans how to govern, pacify the not -any -more -conquered real estate. They concentrated on the East, thought they could let the Crown take care of the rest of the world.

  Wt is not alone in making plans about hoped for, but unrealizable planning goals.
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  Sign of the times

  by recovering in

  1. social
  2. current

  oh i have waited for this for many years.

  it used to really irritate me when i looked out my office window at long island college hospital.

  dang the witnesses presence in brooklyn even out lasted a117 year old hospital.. https://nypost.com/2017/12/06/iconic-brooklyn-sign-taken-down-after-70-years/.

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  waton

  spd: "Always wondered why they chose that garish red for the colour.

  Red of the same wattage can be seen the farthest through fog, smog.
  
  
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  And the capital of Israel was ...

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the capital of biblical israel was samaria.. jerusalem was the capital of judah/benjamin.. the modern state of israel is not named after the biblical nation of israel.

  it is named after a man.

  it is named after jacob, the lion of judah, who was later given the name of israel.

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  waton

  And remained the official capital even after the break away, because the law-making-defining body was really the priesthood, centered in the temple there. Judah = rule, Benjamin, Moses= Law.

  The population of all of Jacob=Israel were supposed to pilgrim to Jerusalem for the festivals.

  Knowing what we know about the certainty of bible promises. I would not want to be there.
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  The end of an era ......

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.

  i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.

  they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.

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  waton

  The Logo coming down was a super size cart message, without the wheels. Near Brooklyn Bridge, which had several attempts on it to being sold to suckers. The WT sign sold a " brooklyn bridge" type hope, impossible to be delivered by the corporation.
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  The end of an era ......

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.

  i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.

  they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.

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  waton

  Notice the clock has no light, stopped ticking too. perhaps will keep going once wt is[was] gone. wt is in the dark when it comes to timing. it is later than you think (1949)
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  The '' other and remaining '' Faithful and Discreet Slaves are '' useless ''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  faithful and discreet slave parable.

  matthew 24:45-47 "who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

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  waton

  Among the new partakers since 2013 are probably very few aspirants to one of the few jobs in the Feeding Slave or to Govern in the Body.

  The idea, 1) to be immortal rather than have only the perilous everlasting life, 2) to get rid once and for all of the bothersome body with all it's demands, 3) to have Jesus as a mediator, 4) to gain instant access to the ransom, 5) to be, as Christ's brother, sister, the recipient of all the largess of the Other Sheep.

  by just one drink, one bite is enticing. It was only slightly more enticing before 2013, errr 1919, when you became then also a member of the F&DS.
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  The '' other and remaining '' Faithful and Discreet Slaves are '' useless ''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  faithful and discreet slave parable.

  matthew 24:45-47 "who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

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  waton

  In wt understanding a member can be part of the F&DS at one time, but a domestic, receiver, at different situations. WT writer, but receiving his newest wt magazine on his bed in bethel. in former times. Did bethelites have a subscription, brown wrappers?
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  Perfection

  by Jehovah lol in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is the watchtower's concept of 'perfection' biblical?.

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  waton

  wt once defined perfection as "perfectly suited, created for it's purpose". you fill in the details.
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  The '' other and remaining '' Faithful and Discreet Slaves are '' useless ''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  faithful and discreet slave parable.

  matthew 24:45-47 "who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

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  waton

  Iutbad: "--the remnant of the ‘anointed’ scattered worldwide were probably writing letters, asking questions, offering unsolicited input and suggestions, trying to help supply “food at the proper time

  good points, but none of the pertinent but unwelcome "Dear Brother" letters to Brooklyn were classified and identified as written from partaker or Other Sheep, boys and girls even.

  Even opinions given in the spirit of Jethro, Moses' father in law, (an outsider) were viewed with apprehension, rejected, not acknowledged if used.