It has been well established that eye witness (pun just happened) are notoriously unreliable ( a lie lies in there too), and not intentionally. Bravo for you going back and sorting this out for the absolute truth's sake!
Posts by waton
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8A retraction and apology - I posted incorrect information.
by doubtfull1799 init was recently brought to my attention by the person who was with me on the carts at the time, that a comment i made six months ago about the cart work on this forum was incorrect.
i apologise and in the interests of honesty and accuracy i feel it is only right to issue a public retraction.
i have quoted the post in question below as i am not sure how to correct or delete the original.
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Last Week's Watchtower had something that made people start questioning things?
by silentbuddha ini just got a call from a friend who said that something in last weeks watchtower caused a number of people in various congregations to start questioning things, and several long time elders left.
i am totally out of the loop but i do read things here and i heard of no such thing.. something to the effect that jw's and governing boobies are not inspired or something along those lines?.
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waton
this week's watchtower too leaves many unanswered between the lines questions. Of course creation demands that you obey natural laws, or face a reduced life span, but on issues of choice?:
Obey sovereignty: stealing one fruit merits the death of billions and billions? succeeding in a building project merits worldwide mayhem through language communication disruption? slanting the level playing field in the Almighty's favour? Free will, free choice, but if you make your choice I will kill you?
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Last Week's Watchtower had something that made people start questioning things?
by silentbuddha ini just got a call from a friend who said that something in last weeks watchtower caused a number of people in various congregations to start questioning things, and several long time elders left.
i am totally out of the loop but i do read things here and i heard of no such thing.. something to the effect that jw's and governing boobies are not inspired or something along those lines?.
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waton
toshibabadu, storytellers of classics (and users of their tales) are above criticism, are not accountable to anyone.
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Last Week's Watchtower had something that made people start questioning things?
by silentbuddha ini just got a call from a friend who said that something in last weeks watchtower caused a number of people in various congregations to start questioning things, and several long time elders left.
i am totally out of the loop but i do read things here and i heard of no such thing.. something to the effect that jw's and governing boobies are not inspired or something along those lines?.
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waton
Par. 11 "...Nowhere do we read of God’s telling Job specifically the reason behind his suffering. The main point of Jehovah’s words was not to explain to Job why he was suffering, as if God had to justify himself.
Par. 2: "---Or we could allow the weight of our personal trials to eclipse that great issue.
thank you blondie.
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Jesus resurrected in spirit or flesh, JW doctrine?
by Crazyguy inwhat is the jw doctrine on this?
and do they believe that he ascended then came back or dead for three days and then only ascended after being resurrected for a while?.
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waton
resurrected in the spirit, but gifted to "materialize" a new, different fake body (like the angels before the flood) , after 30 days of that, going to heaven, departing in a fake body. Ten days later showering the 120 with holy spirit in the form of artificial fake flames. or
so the story goes, written decades later with enhanced memory
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Last Week's Watchtower had something that made people start questioning things?
by silentbuddha ini just got a call from a friend who said that something in last weeks watchtower caused a number of people in various congregations to start questioning things, and several long time elders left.
i am totally out of the loop but i do read things here and i heard of no such thing.. something to the effect that jw's and governing boobies are not inspired or something along those lines?.
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waton
Stinkelfein, have you even read blondie's post?
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Last Week's Watchtower had something that made people start questioning things?
by silentbuddha ini just got a call from a friend who said that something in last weeks watchtower caused a number of people in various congregations to start questioning things, and several long time elders left.
i am totally out of the loop but i do read things here and i heard of no such thing.. something to the effect that jw's and governing boobies are not inspired or something along those lines?.
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waton
I just took a quick look and couldn't find anything in the study article for last week that touched on that. Maybe I missed it.
right, every comment seems to just harp on familiar gripes, GB, prophecy, but those are not in the study at all.
It is about Job and the rest of us to put up and shut up, and being kept in ignorance by wt. the g,o,d,
Thanks blondie to at least put that up for those to read before spouting.
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Last Week's Watchtower had something that made people start questioning things?
by silentbuddha ini just got a call from a friend who said that something in last weeks watchtower caused a number of people in various congregations to start questioning things, and several long time elders left.
i am totally out of the loop but i do read things here and i heard of no such thing.. something to the effect that jw's and governing boobies are not inspired or something along those lines?.
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waton
main message: Wt, g.o.d. , does not have to account for what havoc they create.
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Last Week's Watchtower had something that made people start questioning things?
by silentbuddha ini just got a call from a friend who said that something in last weeks watchtower caused a number of people in various congregations to start questioning things, and several long time elders left.
i am totally out of the loop but i do read things here and i heard of no such thing.. something to the effect that jw's and governing boobies are not inspired or something along those lines?.
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waton
not that this alone would make one want to leave wt , but:
par. 2 used the words " eclipse the greater issue", ha ha, for us attending meetings in the pass of totality, next day's, August 21, 2017, event was marked. appropriately. Calendar - conscious astronomer among the writers?
par. 8 Emphazising sovereignty ad nauseum, is not belittling our salvation, so they say, but they certainly can not guarantee it, what salvation anyway?
par.9) wt shows no regard for the death of innocent victims, the servants, the children, never mind Job himself.
par 10. how dare Job demand a reason for his suffering?
par 11 the clincher: "-- the main point of Jehovah's word was not to explain to Job why he was suffering--" by extension wt is under no obligation, in their opinion, being g.o.d. , to explain anything to their suffering and longsuffering members.
The rest: do more to support (why the creator would need support, propping up?) by work, even putting in 80 hours during less than a month before your death.
to sum up: using the mixed up tale of Job to justify wt's nebulous message of non-salvation, justifying collateral damage, justifying stone walling on burning questions, demanding all for the org, down to death. good job on Job.
The eclipse came on time. there are true (scientific) prophets in the wt's last days.
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Demonic content being used in the "Remember the Wife of Lot" video?
by The Fall Guy insadly it's in german, but i've been reliably informed of the crucial relevance of the moon, butterflies, owls, geckos, & mirrors in spiritistic practices - all featured in the "slave's" offering!
perhaps someone with a knowledge of german can provide a more detailed analysis.. according to this guy's forensic examination of the video, it uses spiritistic practices and symbolism repeatedly.
far too much to be a coincidence?
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waton
like they say in Hollywood: " there is no such thing as bad publicity", never watched any of this.