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  Why does Jehovah choose certain people to rule with him in heaven?

  by iWant2Learn in

  1. watchtower
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  in other words, what good works have the 144000 done to be secured a place in heaven?

  i am told they have already been chosen.

  does that mean that jehovah also knows our future?

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  waton

  Revelation 20 limits those ruling for a thousand years to those killed by the axe.

  from "fiddler on the roof" : why not choose somebody else for a change?
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  Memorial - from disgusted to feeling sorry

  by UBM101 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went with my husband tonight for the first time.

  it was pretty appalling how they lied about the 144k and everyone else.

  then passing the wine and bread for nothing.

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  waton

  mentioned twice: . show by works that you are worthy of the ransom.
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  You will be with me in Paradise

  by AmyWatson916 in

  1. watchtower
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  i'm reading a book called, "what to do when they knock".

  it points out that on page 36 of the 2014 "what does the bible really teach?

  " book jesus promises the criminal, "you will be with me in paradise.

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  waton

  It is not just nonsense, it is old nonsense, like the old teacher that thinks he can stop the genius from doing advanced math on the black board. Old nonsense like a talking snake taking control of the universe.
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  Were the apostles of the 'Anointed class' when they partook?

  by why144000 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according to john 20:22 the apostles did not receive the holy spirit until after jesus was resurrected.

  wouldn't this make them part of 'the other sheep' when they partook of the bread and wine?.

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  waton

  and the sly switch from the New Covenant (the emblems), forgiveness of sins, for all, to the

  Kingdom Covenant. exclusive partakers.
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  Were the apostles of the 'Anointed class' when they partook?

  by why144000 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according to john 20:22 the apostles did not receive the holy spirit until after jesus was resurrected.

  wouldn't this make them part of 'the other sheep' when they partook of the bread and wine?.

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  waton

  This was prior to the Lord's supper, but he still partook.

  Aroq: --which proves that partaking, and potentially aspiring to become part of the anointed does not guarantee a good outcome, or gives you a sterling personality. Judas never became one of the anointed nor of the GC.

  Nobody of that first century non-overlapping generation could be part of the Great Crowd, which comes "out of the Great Tribulation" that is scheduled to happen " in the Lord's day", not later than 2075. Judas too had an earthly hope, squirreled away money to be comfortable when it was supposed to happen,-- in his lifetime.
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  Were the apostles of the 'Anointed class' when they partook?

  by why144000 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according to john 20:22 the apostles did not receive the holy spirit until after jesus was resurrected.

  wouldn't this make them part of 'the other sheep' when they partook of the bread and wine?.

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  waton

  Eyeuse2badub, blondi, thank you for touching that issue.

  Is it not true, that at Catholic Mass and protestant services not everyone partakes? so, by itself having observers only is not unusual. What makes wt unique is, that they proscribe baptised and confirmed members from partaking. happens among Catholics only to the excommunicated.

  Wt treats the "Other Sheep" like main stream Christianity deals with the excommunicated.
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  Would you give up one year at the end of your life if you could relive any one day in the past?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  like the question asks: if you could relive any one day of your life, any age, any place and remember everything about it afterwards, would you be willing to live one year shorter at the end of your life?

  one day for one year?.

  i realize that someone well on in years would think twice about it, but, what about you younger ones?

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  A good threat. reminds you to try to live each day, so you would give up a year to make sure it was worth your, and the your's while.
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  God never knew Jesus would be killed?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus gave an illustration with a landowner being the central character:.

  “there was a landowner who planted a vineyard.

  he put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower.

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  waton

  The parable's situation would be, to some degree, consistent with the picture one could have of a deist's creator, who, being eternal, is already in the eternal future, (the dimension of time) and is observing what might develop in the outworkings of creation, bound by the given laws, as the universe expands through time.

  leaving all options open, anything is possible, even a change of hearts.
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  Would you give up one year at the end of your life if you could relive any one day in the past?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  like the question asks: if you could relive any one day of your life, any age, any place and remember everything about it afterwards, would you be willing to live one year shorter at the end of your life?

  one day for one year?.

  i realize that someone well on in years would think twice about it, but, what about you younger ones?

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  when you are into your late eighties, someone guaranteeing you another year is great. who knows what great experience awaits you? You might become father again! or become a witness to the next greatest scientific feat !

  You already lived that great day in the past, why trade it for the potential of 365, more?
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  Were the apostles of the 'Anointed class' when they partook?

  by why144000 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according to john 20:22 the apostles did not receive the holy spirit until after jesus was resurrected.

  wouldn't this make them part of 'the other sheep' when they partook of the bread and wine?.

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  waton

  @ Cg: if "Christian" means Anointed, as with spirit, which in those days was done in spectacular fashion, (doves, flames, glossolalia), the disciples at the last supper were not Christians, or anointed.- yet.

  using that criteria, it would be wrong to demand that one has to be anointed, or sealed, to be allowed to partake.