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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-12-2017 WT Study (FREE WILL)

  by blondie in

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  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

  bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

  wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

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  waton

  par 3; Jehovah does not have absolute free will anymore, not after he imposed the limitation that "he can not lie" on himself in the adhering to the 2 witness rule in the bible, and

  he has never demonstrated believably that he can violate the laws of nature in "miracles" not just stories.

  Par. 8: Adam not satisfied with his lot? au contraire, he , in his rush to stay with Eve missed the opportunity to start over again.

  Free will is never free, if the other choice is oblivion.

  wt just wants us all to be fully responsible for sticking with warwick. it is our fault if we believed the talking snake follow-up story. ha ha.
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  This is What I Would Need in Order to Believe

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.

  various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.

  i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.

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  Waton - As a skeptic that's the sort of extreme example that I am not asking for.

  understood, cofty, and it was written with the understanding that I wa pushing past the limit, yet, with that power supposedly displayed ones, why not put it to an urgent need now?
  
  
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  This is What I Would Need in Order to Believe

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.

  various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.

  i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.

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  waton

  If: God now reassigning the angel that single-handedly identified and killed all the firstborn in Egypt to

  head an angelic task force that is poised to instantly stop any impending rape, anywhere, and dispatch the culprit out of sight, instantly, permanently, no questions asked. and

  those with them, that abate these atrocities.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-12-2017 WT Study (FREE WILL)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

  bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

  wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

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  waton

  Free choice without dire consequences is limited in nature by it's laws. Free choice in wt land with it's "kingdom government" and laws is limited by obedience too. Defy the laws? courageously?

  thank you blondie, for wading through that morass first.
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  "Overlapping Generation" is a "Spiritual Generation" - a letter to the governing body

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  11 march 2017. dear governing body of jehovah's witnesses,.

  could you please introduce the phrase "spiritual generation" to replace the phrase "overlapping generation".

  it would save us all a lot of confusion.. an online search of your publications dating back to 2000 showed that this term has never been used.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q="spiritual+generation"&p=par.

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  The talking snake in the beginning of the story had overlapping scales. it would be fitting then, that the story ends with an overlapping generation.

  WT has a history of coining names, The biblical "Israel of God" (Gal 6:16), resurfaced as "Spiritual Israel."

  We anti- Nazis hat a saying in the 30s, 40s, taken from the Nazi anthem : " -im geiste mit-" marching along [only] in spirit, in other words: non existent. so:

  go ahead, the imaginary, symbolic spiritual generation.

  
  
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  "Overlapping Generation" is a "Spiritual Generation" - a letter to the governing body

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  11 march 2017. dear governing body of jehovah's witnesses,.

  could you please introduce the phrase "spiritual generation" to replace the phrase "overlapping generation".

  it would save us all a lot of confusion.. an online search of your publications dating back to 2000 showed that this term has never been used.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q="spiritual+generation"&p=par.

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  Jesus made a contrast between the shortness of time left for Jerusalem, and the length of the one generation in existence then, the then current generation, that would out last the temple.

  that generation would be a composite spiritual congregation, of both anointed and others that survived the end. Any one who died before the end could not be part of "this generation". or?
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  "Overlapping Generation" is a "Spiritual Generation" - a letter to the governing body

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  11 march 2017. dear governing body of jehovah's witnesses,.

  could you please introduce the phrase "spiritual generation" to replace the phrase "overlapping generation".

  it would save us all a lot of confusion.. an online search of your publications dating back to 2000 showed that this term has never been used.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q="spiritual+generation"&p=par.

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  The current last wt generation, the "overlapping anointed" will die before the end. but: Jesus said the last generation would not end. before all these things. so:

  A spiritual generation would not be the last, not ending, but go on into eternity.? so

  "Spiritual generation" would be a mis-nomer, could not possibly be synonymous with the current mal-defined "overlapping anointed generation" that ends before the end, at the beginning of the G.T.
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  The Bible Texts Watchtower has never commented on

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  the watchtower library is a great tool to learn more about the watchtower itself.

  for example, answering the question "does the word "organization" ever appear in the bible"?

  is easy to answer using it.

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  waton

  ' LGBT--let every man be a liar,' The trailer they did not put on the cover of the "Let God be True " book. but should have, because

  that proved so true when J1 and J2 ceased to be the the Superior Authorities.
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  Looking forward to going to Memorial this year!

  by kpop in

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  i have some tricks to play.

  i know it may sound childish but i feel that creating havoc and forcing the memorial to be postponed will be the highlight of the night!

  wish me luck!.

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  waton

  I would guess the entire room would have no clue to the reference you would be making! Classic. p brow: Luke 21:24

  I did not suggest that anybody actually do that, to use the memorial to advance their personal, (even "anti-wt") agenda, like the apostles did. but think of it, 11 in the audience actually starting an argument after the closing song? (you could excuse it as being a re-enactment of the actual event),
  
  
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  Looking forward to going to Memorial this year!

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have some tricks to play.

  i know it may sound childish but i feel that creating havoc and forcing the memorial to be postponed will be the highlight of the night!

  wish me luck!.

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  waton

  Actually, acting inappropriately at the event has a precedent:

  At the Last Supper, the disciples argued about position, who was, or would be, the greatest among them.

  But then, kpop, you are probably not a future Governing Body member, so, don't try to follow their example.