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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  waton

  "I agree with WT interpretation" Fisherman,

  When all is said and done, !914, derived from these dates, is a classic wt false prophecy, because they announced, predicted that in that year, the world would end and they, anointed all, would have a rapid ascend to heaven, clearing the way.

  Even 3 years later they still were stunned by that failure, denying it, by going at it again, with another like follow up,

  " The World has ended, Millions now living will never die." they will go down, or up with that.

  The evidence is cast in stone, or charcoal.

  
  
  
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  Missing Monthly Broadcast - May 2015

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  youtuber millstone research has done a video on the fact that the may 2015 monthly broadcast is no longer on jw org.. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/categories/studiomonthlyprograms.

  the broadcast was presented by lett who mentions he had the backing of the other gb members regarding his comments.. the broadcast is basically about soliciting jws for funds as well as other 'valuable things' for the organisation.

  this is the one where he claims that the money flowing out was more than the money flowing in.

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  waton

  wt changing their publishing history is an old fact, yearly bound volumes often differed from the original printed copy. In science (which wt writers compare their bible research compare too, sjust one instance like that would sink your career, or tacking boat.
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  New "thinking" on WHY Jesus cried!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we used to believe it was because of seeing the others' intense grief at bereavement:.

  bhs chap.

  7 p. 72 par.

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  waton

  To be confronted too with his impending mortality, and not dying in his sleep like his friend. Only month away from : "Eli, Eli, why----?
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  Newtons prediction for end of the world

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  maybe this man (sir isaac newton), has more credibility than fred franz in picking a date for armageddon ?.

  interestingly, newton(brilliant mathematician, everyone must know him) was very interested in the bible and revelation .. .

  what newton tried to do was determine a particular timescale for the apocalypse.

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  waton

  Ussher's proposed date of 4004 BC differed little from other Biblically based estimates, such as those of Jose ben Halafta (3761 BC), Bede (3952 BC), Ussher's near-contemporary Scaliger (3949 BC), Johannes Kepler (3992 BC) or Sir Isaac Newton (c. 4000 BC).

  Keppler was disfellowshipped for his bible checking, Newton kept mum about some of his bible research to avoid that fate, which was often fatal.

  P.S. A Wt speaker put the limit to 2075, giving us 15 more years than the genius.
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  waton

  The Watchtowers "Slave" was appointed in 1919, but was, until recently "all the anointed as a class" (a lot of dis-appointed at that time of change). So,

  the first century "governing body" was not part of the F&DS. but

  Wt should follow that pattern, to re-create the divinely approved setup, therefore

  recognize that outside contributors (like Paul) have more insight, inspiration, than wt writers themselves. Even,

  if like the Apostle Peter, they find "apostate writings" hard to understand, because of blinkers.

  First century divine pattern: majority of relevant doctrine was written outside "Headquarters". Probably

  still is, because a lot of "new Light" came because of the untenable positions were pointed out to them.
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  Dr. Bart Ehrman

  by truth_b_known in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  dr. bart ehrman is a bible scholar who wrote such books as misquoting jesus: the story behind who changed the bible and why and how jesus became god: the exaltation of a jewish preacher from galilee.. i found this interview with dr. ehrman fascinating.

  notice are about the 23:35 time stamp one example of many problems with errors in the bible and its many translations.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8evuuadoey.

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  waton

  Hope that his work turns out to live up to his name's meaning, Man of Honour.
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  “Hanging the earth upon nothing”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.

  the reasoning goes something like this:.

  “see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.

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  waton

  joe134cd Pracefulpete: you raise some very good points.

  The OP was not about laws to tame human behaviour, but the way our plane planet has been in stable orbit for 4.5 billion years to have life exist on Earth, and try to find explanations. and

  Here too is a balance of pull and push in action, lifting out of gravity wells by energy, versus the counteracting concentrating forces of gravity.

  May be Prof. Lawrence Krauss took the title of his book: " A universe [created] from Nothing" from the verse: "the Earth hanging on Nothing"

  Energy both quotations. .
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  “Hanging the earth upon nothing”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.

  the reasoning goes something like this:.

  “see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.

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  waton

  Phizzy, sorry, I was referring to the text in the Opening Post, Job 26:7, "--hanging the Earth--", I see nothing circular in the expression "Earth", instead, the four corners are the main bible theme on that, right to Revelation after the 1000 year reign.

  As I said, in the daytime, the Earth actually hangs from the Sun above, by the warping of spacetime.

  The bible can be wrong, even when it seems to be right.
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  “Hanging the earth upon nothing”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.

  the reasoning goes something like this:.

  “see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.

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  waton

  The verse says nothing about a ball, for all we know, the writer could have had in mind a garden of eden swing.

  One , or a handful of verses in 30 000 to be correct is not a bad score to be uniquely insightful.

  They certainly did not understand that the earth would actually fall up to the sun when they saw it in daytime.

  Think of the swing to have go at 30 km a second average not to rise up. ( ~ 48 000 cubits per watch ) ha ha.

  The Writer did not understand the difference between the gravity of the sun and the pull centered on the earth.

  Fun fact: at times the planets actually orbit around nothing, when the planets pull the baricenter outside the suns surface.
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  The question`s GOD beleiver / Creationists ignore or don`t / won`t / can`t answer ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the common thread of beleivers / creationists of a god creating life is design .. and if something / anything is designed it must have a designer ?.

  however this reasoning is discarded when talking about the existence of god.. and if such a being as god somehow existed without a designer why not all forms of life itself as existing on earth ?.

  coming into existence without a designer ?.

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  waton

  Disillusioned JW,

  There is now detected the existence of "dark energy" appearing in the expanding universe, so,

  the time/energy/ future we expand into, must have more resident energy, that was not funnelled into the Big Beginning point of time. or to use Dirac'a language, not all the Dirac "sea" emptied through the Dirac "hole"

  terrible to think that the future has no energy. They are both eternal after all.