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  The Washington Post response to my letter

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.c-span.org/video/?443445-1/qa-lillian-cunningham.

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  waton

  Five years before my appearance before a draft board, the Watchtower Society had quietly and unceremoniously changed the official interpretation of Romans 13: 1,2 rather quietly, flip-flopping back to the traditional plain reading Christendom had held for two thousand years!

  yeah, that was done hidden in the question from readers.

  suddenly, again, the superior authorities to be obeyed were The deity and his son after all.

  BABYLON THE GREAT was right, wt proven to be the false prophet, spokesman.
  
  
  
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  What Happened to Jehovah's Witness Young Men - and WHY did it Happen?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lo9jtmhf4b1-j9cn0enojshyw0rogv-qswxnrme-k6e/edit?usp=sharing.

  _____within the last 6 months, i was contacted by one of my fellow jw's incarcerated with me and about 50 other bros. in the late 1960s.

  we served time as convicted conscientious objectors in seagoville federal correctional institution.surprise surprise!

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  are not opposed to all wars because they heartily endorse the indiscriminate killing of civilians in the battle of Armageddon.

  loosely quoting from wt publications.
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  Disputin' with Putin

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  --war is hell--.

  --war is hell--.

  --war is hell--.

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  waton

  woyna etho adh. tawarish.
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  Do you think the big A will come after Russia invades Ukraine?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any takers?

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  waton

  All the quibbling about apocalyptic mysteries aside, and insisting that preceding Armageddon, there has to be wt leader rapture, wt rupture, Russia et al ravaging Babylon,

  my personal focus, is on Rev 11, kingdom of the world becoming rule by the deity's law, and, that he will

  "destroy those destroying the earth", before the opposite occurs,

  perhaps the dinosaurs were destroying the earth? super vegetarians depleting vital plant life, perhaps? then,

  we would have a precedent to timely divine intervention, seeing that

  water above everest are just an invention.
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  An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

  it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

  they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

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  wt has been very adept to use "satan's" system to further its ends, taxfree, subsidies, freedom laws; now the internet.

  With many countries eyeing guaranteed income, and through various means effectively providing it now, especially for the elderly, newcomers,

  i is quite possible to live a "pioneer's life", in many places. ( but what would you actually do, accomplish?) and

  "satan" can argue for an extension of his term, or overlapping termination dates, for providing so generously to the universal sovereignty issue.
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  Adam & Eve: Perfect but not everlasting life?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was watching annual meeting.

  towards the end of jackson’s talk, he says: .

  “perfection doesn’t automatically means someone will get everlasting life.

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  they know they will live forever when they are given immortality. sbf:

  that is the scary part, that partakers both lowly and at the pinnacle, will be given untrammeled reign, never to be stopped again.
  
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  Adam & Eve: Perfect but not everlasting life?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was watching annual meeting.

  towards the end of jackson’s talk, he says: .

  “perfection doesn’t automatically means someone will get everlasting life.

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  Able gave from the "first fruits" but Cain only "some of" his vegies.

  V. There were no first fruit veggies, the ground was cursed. Abel was favoured, for being smart, offering stuff even the dogs, pigs would not eat. vegetarians all.
  
  
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  Adam & Eve: Perfect but not everlasting life?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was watching annual meeting.

  towards the end of jackson’s talk, he says: .

  “perfection doesn’t automatically means someone will get everlasting life.

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  The tree of life was in the middle of eden, at the crossroads, probably a staple in their diet., not another forbidden or hidden item. They were kept from continuing that routine (12 harvests a year) by the rotating swords.

  If satan is so smart as wt pictures him, he would have A&E go into the ToL inc. seed business.

  a story hard to stomach. even jesus was perfect and he died. should have let him live a millenium to prove perfection.
  
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  Are badness, disobedience, and rebellion part of the "perfect" human nature?

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when humankind will be perfect again after 1,000 years living in a paradise without being influenced by satan and demons, since "the number of these is as the sand of the sea" (revelation 20:8), a huge amount of "perfect" people, like adam and eve, will be bad, disobedient, and rebel being misled by satan once again.. does this mean that after living today surrounded by bad, disobedient, and rebel imperfect people, you will still live surrounded by bad, disobedient and rebel "perfect" people in a paradise?.

  does this mean that badness, disobedience, and rebellion are part of the "perfect" human nature considering the big amount of people involved ("as the sand of the sea")?.

  is it possible that we were originally created with such a strong desire and tendency to badness, disobedience, and rebellion as a result of a wise, loving, and perfect project?.

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  after 1000+ years of extended wt rule down to the ms level, meetings going over the old stories again, and again,

  it is perfectly normal to be driven into the 4 corners of earth. no, not a flat earth sheet, but a three cornered pyramid.

  It is a pyramid schemes, the product: "you will not die"
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  Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

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  russia seems have issued some kind of an ultimatum about the status of the now freed nations in its periphery.

  it moved today to recognize 2 new republics in the Ukrainian territory adjacent to the annexed crimea.

  i see a replay of the games that were played when I was 8, and then it was too late. for millions.