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  Bible

  by Iamallcool in

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  do you have some scriptures that makes you scratch your head in wonder?.

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  waton

  created heaven and earth. I couldn't get past that.

  s3 : to be fair, the bible says "heavens" plural. If you exclude the 'spiritual' domain, to the bible writers, in their dark, unpolluted dry desert skies, thousands of stars , even a galaxy or two were visible to the naked eye. That is four layers of the " heavens above", 1) the moon orbiting the Earth, 2) planets, comets orbiting the sun, 3 ) the Sun and other stars orbiting in the Galaxies, and 4) faint galaxies, part of the cluster.
  It is the Earth existing from the beginning, that is the bible error.

  the Electricity Board said He would have to wait

  pon: If I am allowed to add an old german poem:

  Der Herrgott sprach "Es werde licht", doch Jesus fand den Schalter nicht.
  
  
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  1995 generation change

  by Gorb in

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  now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

  it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

  with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

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  waton

  So if you make it into the Millennium a person is of the GC if the JW dies beforehand, he is OS.

  Fm: good bare fact. but also: the Jw that dies beforehand could be just a Sheep. period, one of the

  AS, anointed sheep.

  current Wt doctrine has it, that the generation of anointed will have to die before Armageddon.

  wt's current doctrine does not match Jesus' words. In those, his "generation" dies after Armageddon
  
  
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  Bible

  by Iamallcool in

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  do you have some scriptures that makes you scratch your head in wonder?.

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  waton

  After that, they looked around for some poor little baby boy to circumcise.

  PZ. That is actually a good procedure, if done with dulled pain. I know someone who had it done twice, became a new man, free, feeling new heights.

  The obscenity is female circumcision, not biblical. a tragedy.

  back to bible horror: David, wt's favoured, collecting 200 foreskins to buy Saul's daughter. what a slaughter. er.
  
  
  
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  Bible

  by Iamallcool in

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  do you have some scriptures that makes you scratch your head in wonder?.

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  waton

  the passage that has ladie's thighs examined to detect adultery.
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  GB / Wives ,wont voluntarily give up their lifestyle

  by smiddy3 in

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  just an observation viewing some of their on camera appearances , and their arrogance believing they are the only one`s used by god to reach and teach the people ,despite what gj said at the arc on the subject.. no doubt the gb men wear designer tailor made suits from the best tailors in nys ?

  and their wives adequately provided for in a similar way ?

  nothing from kmart or target ,walmart or whatever.. shoes are probably made from form fit cobblers to fit the individual ?

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  at least one of the wives would not have baubles hide beauty.
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  1995 generation change

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

  it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

  with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

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  waton

  Once it becomes apparent that an entire generation of JW's attains neither of the two hopes that JW's teach the Bible holds out for Christians, then we do have a new category. To deny it at that point, would be denial of reality.

  TD. wt teaches three hopes, foremost: 1) never to die at all, ( --Millions now living will never die! ) since 1918, and repeated in today's wt publications. 2) to die and be resurrected

  a) as an immortal spirit or

  b) as a citizen of the millennial kingdom. ( "you will be with me in paradise").

  to modify the "great crowd" teaching :

  here is one way: declaring the Great Crowd to be "the Israel of God", because:

  all partakers now, and in the past, (the apostles even) come out of the pool of people with an earthly hope, the 144 000 come out of the 12 tribes.

  In 1935 wt told the OS not to partake, now, let John 6 prevail again.
  
  
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  1995 generation change

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

  it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

  with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

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  waton

  the Org having bought some time to still (somehow) be right.

  V; wt bought more time still, (with our money), with the overlapping groups of centenarians; 200 years of consecutive life spans, with 2 overlaps of 20 years each (like F Franz) since 1914, gives wt to 2075.

  wt just has the "anointed" wrong.
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  The Bible - God's Word or Man's

  by truth_b_known in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that is the title of one of the watchtower's seemingly endless list of books that was pushed out for sale placement in the jehovah's witness' ministry.

  the title does ask a great question.

  those who would deny that the bible is divine in origin usually point to failed prophecy, events that do not mesh with historic evidence, scientific evidence, or even plagiarism from other religions.

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  It's still a secret to many modern day observers who believe the earth is flat.

  PTB the earth was flat during the temptation of Jesus, a really high mountain would, on a clear day you the Chinese empire beyond the himalayas. The Incas and Mayas too. Even in 1054 years from now, the Earth will have 4 corners again, , ( or be a 3 cornered pyramid perhaps to have volume)?

  God could have opted for general relativity, the ancient mind most likely would have struggled to understand it.

  He did, e = mc^2, in Isaiah 40:26. stars made from energy. one of the handful of scriptures that come close to reality.
  
  
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  The Bible - God's Word or Man's

  by truth_b_known in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that is the title of one of the watchtower's seemingly endless list of books that was pushed out for sale placement in the jehovah's witness' ministry.

  the title does ask a great question.

  those who would deny that the bible is divine in origin usually point to failed prophecy, events that do not mesh with historic evidence, scientific evidence, or even plagiarism from other religions.

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  waton

  Yes it goes for every book ever written not just holy ones.

  PTB, of course the wt favourite " ALL scripture is inspired--" supports your view, ha ha. and it is true that without the eternal energy and fitting laws, the universe with us, would not exist. but the bible fan's special claim goes beyond that.

  There are a few appropriate verses among the ~ 50 000, though, . One example in this week's zooming:

  "Earth hanging on nothing" but actually hanging, against gravity by the "dynamic" energy of it's velocity, creating the centrifugal force. One could hardly call energy "nothing". and

  the lacking support is seen in the fuzzy image of the shadow of the earth against the moon in an eclipse. so, no secret to any observant ancients.
  
  
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  1995 generation change

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

  it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

  with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  waton

  there will always be “other sheep” who will become the “great crowd” as they emerge from the great tribulation.

  TD that is a point that deserves repeating. Only after the great tribulation will it be clear who is part of that crowd in the temple courtyard.

  Without a doubt, if one of the anointed unrepentantly falls away, Jehovah does call another individual

  That means The new partakers come out of that pool of candidates called "Other sheep", but rev 7 says that the 1444 000 are sealed out of the 12 tribes. so: biblically speaking,

  the Great Crowd are the " 12 Tribes of the Israel of God " in the New Covenant.

  JWs are "spiritual Israelites" but dont know it, dont touch the New Covenant emblems