Can someone post the article or abstract of it? There were so many changes I dont know which is which, lived through them all since 1957.
Posts by waton
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1221995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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Enduring watchtower study
by road to nowhere inmy studying consists of skimming the article.
this one starts with 2017 don't give up convention.
at the time i changed it to i give up.
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waton
the article gave the deity's endurance as an example to follow. According to wt writers, he endured the indignities visited upon creation and suffered that mental anguish. -- ( except when he did not, blew a fuse, killed all life in the flood, causing suffering, horrible drowning deaths, --or confused the languages at Babel, it would have been too easy for the opposition to reach to heavens unitedly, [ Bezos and Musk take note]) --. so
wt adherents, if the father can endure the pain indirectly , so can you, endure it directly, in the flesh, personally . what other choice do you have? it was really funny to hear the tortuous comments getting around that big absurdity, all based on the talking snake story, including illustrations .
in the meantime, Life is a great gift, enJoy.
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Sep. 2021 Broadcast: more money
by neat blue dog inin the latest jw broadcast, anthony morris the turd gives a talk about donations.
to camouflage this, he starts and ends the talk by saying that isn't actually what he's doing.
first he starts with the usual disclaimer, 'wt has never begged for money like christendom and we never will', you know the drill.
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waton
to drop an IOU in the contribution box
PZ: talking about IOUs, wt owes a lot of people a lot of dough, for paying full time workers below the going rate, owes apologies, and $$$$ for lost opportunities, income. for working on a mostly useless project.
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Were early Gentile Christians familiar with the FATHER OF JESUS?
by pistolpete inthe first christians were mainly of jewish decent and christianity began as a jewish sect.
jesus was a thoroughly dedicated practicing jew who never suggested the launch of a new religion.
jesus lived and died a dedicated jew.
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waton
Paul knew that his advanced writings, concepts would be subject to challenge and debate. to clinch his arguments , he labeled some "the Lord's commandments" as in I Cor 14, 34-37.
wt writers of course, since 1958, are among the latter day disputers of these instructions.
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Were early Gentile Christians familiar with the FATHER OF JESUS?
by pistolpete inthe first christians were mainly of jewish decent and christianity began as a jewish sect.
jesus was a thoroughly dedicated practicing jew who never suggested the launch of a new religion.
jesus lived and died a dedicated jew.
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waton
Later Peter did not add much either when he wrote:
Paul writes stuff " --that is hard to understand--". still is.
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Watchtower tweaks "religion" out of Samaritan parable
by Wonderment inthe watchtower writing staff often tweaks the application of a scriptural lesson to their benefit.
this can be seen in this recent article of theirs: .
first, in their explanation of the parable, they do mention "religion" in the original setting (bold letters below): .
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waton
In the parable of the sheep and the goats, they substitute real commandible charitable works for the least fortunate of humans --- with work for the watchtower leaders, and the corporation's propaganda.
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The camp of Israel and the problem of pooping
by FFGhost inso, in a couple weeks, the jws move on in their bible-reading slog to the book of deuteronomy.. take a gander at deuteronomy 23:12,13:.
a private place should be designated for use outside the camp, and there is where you should go.
13 a peg should be part of your equipment.
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waton
with all that good fertilization, well spread, matured by now, why is it still a desert?
This end product of desert metabolism was special, the input was of heavenly origin, manna and quails. water directly from rocks.
wading in that miraculous quagmire must have coated, tanned leather in a special way, their shoes never wore out.
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The camp of Israel and the problem of pooping
by FFGhost inso, in a couple weeks, the jws move on in their bible-reading slog to the book of deuteronomy.. take a gander at deuteronomy 23:12,13:.
a private place should be designated for use outside the camp, and there is where you should go.
13 a peg should be part of your equipment.
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waton
with all that good fertilization, well spread, matured by now, why is it still a desert?
deserts are supposed to mummify organic matter.
may be the israelites, the 2 millions of them, did not know it, but they were eating digested and heavenly recycled manna, . perhaps the quails had a role to play in that too.
a heavenly possibility. astronauts too, drink recycled urine, and growing food in extreme conditions are worked on too. rhymes with poo.
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Lawsuit: I said GB member Barr that my Bethelite stepfather abused me; he did nothing
by Corney inhere's an excerpt from the recent lawsuit deborah hines v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york et al (paragraphs 158-180), one of 29 known cases brought against the org pursuant to the ny child victims act.
what should be kept in mind is that gerrit lösch apparently worked in europe (the austrian branch and eastern europe) at the time when the abuse was allegedly reported to him (not a gb member then).. plaintiff was raised a member of the jehovah’s witnesses.
she primarily attended meetings at various congregations in arizona.
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waton
for a working visitor to bethel, she had an amazing range of access to the top men.
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Even if God exists…….
by snare&racket ini’m an atheist.. let’s assume i am wrong, i am willing to be.. let’s give people a god, let’s even make him the god of the bible…... does he deserve to be worshipped and obeyed?
if so, why does his abhorrent actions not morally make you question allegiance to him?.
does his authority alone allow him to murder and drown and order war, to throw people into a lake of fire?.
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waton
This is what success in balance looks like
PTB. I had more in mind the balance between carbon intake and oxygen exhaling of plants, the vegetation and the herbivores, between eaters and the eaten. Between favouring your young, and excepting that everything will die, hopefully contribute by their demise, like stars do. giving us oxygen, carbon, even gold.