Bungi Bill, frankly, at the time I was full in, and the only thing I remember now was some financial details I found unbelievable. The book was a gift to me, I had shown no interest in the subject, only gave it passing attention, and I did not find the doctrinal arguments that would start to sway me later, the 'Superior Authority' reversal. Sorry but I now have only a blank.
Posts by waton
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23How Many Here Used To Sneak Looking At "apostate" Material?
by minimus ini did!
even when i was in junior high school i would go to the library and look for anything that was about charles taze russell or millenial dawn or jehovah's witnesses..... maybe i was an "apostate " in the making..
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How Many Here Used To Sneak Looking At "apostate" Material?
by minimus ini did!
even when i was in junior high school i would go to the library and look for anything that was about charles taze russell or millenial dawn or jehovah's witnesses..... maybe i was an "apostate " in the making..
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waton
early one was given Schnell's 30 year wt slave, and ordered Penton's work ( including "plugilist club, members only" kh sign) ha ha, but all that did not have the impact to get me mentally out, that only later developments provided
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Crossing the Elders
by Cold Steel infew things draw my interest as much as people on this board who talk about the elders, the insidious little toadies who lurk around kingdom halls, the proverbial big fish in little ponds.
it amazes me the terror and the veneration they inspire, as well as the occasional ridicule.
it makes me wonder how they're selected and whether most of them come into the position with a sense of power, entitlement, authority and control, or whether many of them are pretty nice people and that i'm just hearing about the bad apples?
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waton
If I'm not mistaken, if you're anointed, you're born that way. CS:
Some religions might teach that, Catholics have to be baptized (like Jesus) to receive the anointing, Cornelius even was spirit anointed before baptism, but one way or another, you have to be faithful to a "t" , failure will make you lose it all. at least if you cross the elders, (brazen conduct in wt parlance!) or?
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Crossing the Elders
by Cold Steel infew things draw my interest as much as people on this board who talk about the elders, the insidious little toadies who lurk around kingdom halls, the proverbial big fish in little ponds.
it amazes me the terror and the veneration they inspire, as well as the occasional ridicule.
it makes me wonder how they're selected and whether most of them come into the position with a sense of power, entitlement, authority and control, or whether many of them are pretty nice people and that i'm just hearing about the bad apples?
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waton
Why should these people be subject to the earthly elders when they are destined to so much more? CS:
The idea was, that if you lived by wt rules to a t, you cemented your right to be in heaven. i.e. : A lady anointed being submissive to a husband, even though limited as he is, would be a good, proven candidate to excel in heaven. so: an anointed is mandated to live up to wt expectations for the role they are fixed in now, and "Jesus" is watching.
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Crossing the Elders
by Cold Steel infew things draw my interest as much as people on this board who talk about the elders, the insidious little toadies who lurk around kingdom halls, the proverbial big fish in little ponds.
it amazes me the terror and the veneration they inspire, as well as the occasional ridicule.
it makes me wonder how they're selected and whether most of them come into the position with a sense of power, entitlement, authority and control, or whether many of them are pretty nice people and that i'm just hearing about the bad apples?
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waton
I second that, adding that in congregations where a domineering personality happens to be appointed, it can be a sick congregation.
Elders do not wear badges, proclaiming their status, as is tradition among the youthful LDS (Mormon) workers.
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Ritualistic behaviour within the JW faith
by stuckinarut2 ini was thinking about how the society criticises other faiths such as catholics because of their ritualistic procedures.. but couldn't it be said that witnesses have their own deeply ritualistic behaviours?.
think about the prayers said at meetings.
they all have to follow the same basic style and theme, and include the same basic content.. what about the ritualistic procedures of the memorial, and the passing of emblems - even to the servers and speaker (although they actually handle them more than everyone, they do their own special act of passing them to each other).
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waton
The race to reserve seats at 8am sharp at assemblies. (practising for the loving new world.)
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How HIGH did you climb the ranks as a JW? Did you like the STATUS?
by unshackled inso what were your biggest jw accomplishments as a rank & file?
curious as to what level you climbed the r&f ladder while in the org, or if you still are in.. did you regular pioneer, or auxiliary pioneer?
bethel?
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waton
according to Jesus, the highest position in his religion (ruled invisibly since 1914) is "publisher" because the highest must be your slave. your slave. jws : you are slave owners, teh ms, the Elders, the Co, branch coordinator, GB member, remember.
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Not forseen by FF
by Gorbatchov ineuropean press is quoting angela merkel today, who sees a break up between europe and the usa.. objection!
this is not what we learned at the bible studies in the 70's!!!.
fred franz is turning arround in his grave now 😂😂😂.
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waton
Of course Merkel can not count on the brexit UK and wall building US any more. her idea is to destroy Europe as we knew it, and the cross-channel/atlantic present leaders want to protect themselves and their client populations. A deep divide.
The german army, once a bulwark against invader, now is tailoring uniforms for their pregnant lady soldiers ha ha., while millions of muster ready young males are allowed to invade, unchecked, without control.
may be he Anglo American world power is becoming more exclusively Anglo American than we think?
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wt study: May 28, Apply things written
by waton inwt mag march 2017 page 26. par.
.....heart become haughty, like hezekiahl.
i thought wow!, .. if "god" stopped the rotation of the earth and reversed it, -to give me a changed shadow, - then stopped it again, reversed it back to normal,*** just to give me a personal sign, i would be impressed too?
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waton
here is depicted an physical event that contradicts James 1:17, " .....Father of celestial lights with whom there is no variation of the turning of the shadow" and an event that today , would be the greatest cosmological, world news, and
surprisingly the wt audience just swallows it, as the basis for their obedience beliefs. obviously surprises await them.
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wt study: May 28, Apply things written
by waton inwt mag march 2017 page 26. par.
.....heart become haughty, like hezekiahl.
i thought wow!, .. if "god" stopped the rotation of the earth and reversed it, -to give me a changed shadow, - then stopped it again, reversed it back to normal,*** just to give me a personal sign, i would be impressed too?
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waton
wt mag March 2017 page 26. par. 11. .....heart become haughty, like Hezekiahl
I thought wow!, .. if "god" stopped the rotation of the Earth and reversed it, -to give me a changed shadow, - then stopped it again, reversed it back to normal,*** just to give me a personal sign, I would be impressed too? wouldn't you? bragging about it? haughty haughty?
***or, to make it simpler, performed a smoke and mirror trick for me in a command performance, announced beforehand, no less?