this morning my brother and my mother (whom i mentioned in my previous topic when we had a conversation about evolution) visited a jehovah's witness, and when they returned, they returned with the awake!
magazine that they received from the witness.
the magazine is entitled, "is the bible really from god?
This is a misunderstanding of the analogy. The analogy is there to demonstrate why one cannot make appeals to faith. It is not indicative of God's existence.
Saename: I understood well, but wanted to bring the important point into the discussion, that in all this we always have to deal a priori with the existence and details of the universe. whether it created itself or not, . I agree with you, the bible can not be inspired, god does not intervene. But: will we have a jarring revelation?
this morning my brother and my mother (whom i mentioned in my previous topic when we had a conversation about evolution) visited a jehovah's witness, and when they returned, they returned with the awake!
magazine that they received from the witness.
the magazine is entitled, "is the bible really from god?
very well written post. wt logic seems to be designed to appeal only to simpletons, and allow only them in.
On the odd gumball / god's influence argument, - The existence of all these gumballs argues in favour of a creator, one more or less is just icing on the cake. Schroedinger's gumballs?
ones who are lovers of jehovah .
dont say rip .
rip is also pagan in origin.
R I P wt version: resurrected in paradise
police are still investigating the cause of death.. az central, 13 may 2017. missing prescott valley 18-year-old found dead.
a prescott valley woman who was reported missing late last month has been found dead, police said friday.. yavapai county sheriff's office deputies joined the prescott valley police in searching for the 18-year-old walmart cashier.surveyors working on a new connector road above glassford hill in prescott valley found her body on friday and contacted authorities, according to the police department.. police in a press release confirmed that the body found off a maintenance road near glassford hill was lefler's.. the case is still being investigated, and the cause of death is unknown.. red more: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2017/05/13/missing-prescott-valley-18-year-old-found-dead/321043001/.
gofundme, 3 may 2017. help find lianna lefler gibson.
Tragic this violence against young women. Reminiscent of a Ice cream outlet worker in Canada, that decades ago did not return home from work.
Proves that the father they are pleading to for help is something else.
hello all - so me and stuckinarut2 are at the state library proving to ourselves that wt has it all wrong re: 607. i've read at length jwfacts, jwsurvey and crisis of conscience that all go into the subject and i've just downloaded gentile times reconsidered.. while it is fabulous to have someone else compile all the research and evidence for you, it is quite another to see it in print for yourself - and so, here we are.. while we wait for our array of books i couldn't help but share with you how the state library has catalogued jewish history - 586 bc to 70 ad.
no mention of 607 as a key date as far as the library's catalogue is concerned!!
evidence before we have our books!!.
The fixation on the First Jewish-Roman War (66-73 C.E.) by the Jehovah's Witnesses and other Christians is so very odd to me.
David Jay: thank you for the clarifications, post 2 was about the internal inconsistencies off the wt doctrines, anointed generation. That jws have a myopic world view is another of their foibles.
hello all - so me and stuckinarut2 are at the state library proving to ourselves that wt has it all wrong re: 607. i've read at length jwfacts, jwsurvey and crisis of conscience that all go into the subject and i've just downloaded gentile times reconsidered.. while it is fabulous to have someone else compile all the research and evidence for you, it is quite another to see it in print for yourself - and so, here we are.. while we wait for our array of books i couldn't help but share with you how the state library has catalogued jewish history - 586 bc to 70 ad.
no mention of 607 as a key date as far as the library's catalogue is concerned!!
evidence before we have our books!!.
and then there is the other destructive end of Jerusalem in 70 CE. survived by the then anointed generation that had fled to the hills. (as predicted and instructed)
Now, wt is setting itself up for another fiasko here too, , by predicting that in the 2nd fulfillment, the anointed generation will die before the beginning of the end, contradicting Jesus' words.
Jerusalem oh Jerusalem. no end to wt's plight with you, real, "Heavenly-" , "-Above" or "New --".
my god!
i hope she is ok!
what have you leftists done to italy?!
Southern Europe does not need a wall, it has the moat aka MED. but guess what?
i normally don't bother going to the midweek jw meetings much.
however, upon reading in the april 2017 meeting workbook that there was to be a video about erich frost (former do for saxony & nazi prisoner in sachsenhausen concentration camp) i wanted to attend as i had read about this brother in history texts by detlef garbe and hans hesse.
i had also visited auschwitz several times and noted that the museum had a display / exhibition about jehovah's witnesses.
Of course there was a difference between Treblinka, Birkenau and Buchenwald. And being there was safer than in Hamburg or Dresden or Kursk. But If you ever had experiences Nazi rule, hunger as I have, and the reaction that your mind and body demands of you, you would never call those putting up with it, voluntarily, as collaborating cowards., not all of them anyway.
Luck played a great part in your fate, you could be on trips to Sweden as a nanny, or be worked to death in a tunnel destined to build V2s. Sadly of course, the worst can be brought out in humans too, as it is even happening in wt land as we speak.
i normally don't bother going to the midweek jw meetings much.
however, upon reading in the april 2017 meeting workbook that there was to be a video about erich frost (former do for saxony & nazi prisoner in sachsenhausen concentration camp) i wanted to attend as i had read about this brother in history texts by detlef garbe and hans hesse.
i had also visited auschwitz several times and noted that the museum had a display / exhibition about jehovah's witnesses.
Collaborating cowards.
S: I would not judge the jws so easily and harshly. The whole extermination machinery was run/done by inmates, gas chambers, ovens, the sorting, breaking out of gold teeth, inmates, who were trading time alive against what you call collaborating. At least the witnesses could leave left, free, provided they promised to become nazis. No other category of KZ prisoners, certainly not the jews had that option. so. they might not have supported the coming overlapping generation, but were true martyrs.
PS and they struggled with the false wt doctrine of the Super Superior.- but non existing secular authorities ! Imagine being ready to give your life for a valid principle, but sensing that there is something wrong with the wt religion, doctrine?
my god!
i hope she is ok!
what have you leftists done to italy?!
filmed in the dark, lack of contrast with the subjects? Running for their lives, or integrity, hard to get a stable shot with that.
