Posts by waton

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"There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

by unsure in

(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

waton

ttdtt

'If you summed up Krauss' " out of nothing---' what he basically saying is : "there is no such thing as nothing, never was. so to me that means the energy and matter, the laws that came out of Krauss's non-nothing, could just have just --poof-- combined to start us, or there could have been intent and guidance. The condition for pre-bang existence are a given in his works, and also in the theories of Penrose.

You give me the precise points you think disprove the possibility of a deist creator, and I would like to deal with them.

what I am saying is : Particularly with all the details of the nature of things we now have, and are elaborate on in the books we read, The idea of "work" works.

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"There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

by unsure in

(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

waton

@unsure: Sorry to hear about the health issues. That it is why

it is so important not to rely on personal experiences to come to conclusions about the big questions, but rely on the unalterable evidence offered in creation/nature itself.

added: Creation just might be the only message we have about it's source, so better read it carefully. Be wary even of voices you think could have divine origin. (do not believe everything you think) I dont.

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"There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

by unsure in

(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

waton

@ unsure. you are asking for a revelation, and wt/witnesses are a revelation-based religion, from the talking snake to the trumpets in revelation. so,

Do not expect better revelations, instead switch tracks, expect more insights from sciences' sharp foci., better seeing. better looking

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"There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

by unsure in

(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

waton

ttdtt:

It might surprise you, but I have read most of these works and then some. It is a fact too, that the Universe is humming along quite nicely and apparently made itself, without any input from these learned and intelligent writers.

Just because the formulas, equation describe to some extend explain what is happening in nature does not mean at all that we have come to break the barrier to understand existence.

Just because we have come a long way to explain how it works, does not mean it is not work in the first place.

work so complete that it will function without ever having to be touched again.

Each item on science news explains better and better how it was done, put on auto pilot in the first place.

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Colossians and The Gospel of Thomas - a work in progress

by Doug Mason in

as i prepare the pre-draft stage of my study into the evolutions of salvation, i have drafted a chapter on colossians and on the gospel of thomas.

http://www.jwstudies.com/colossians_soteriologies.pdf.

http://www.jwstudies.com/the_soteriology_of_thomas.pdf.

waton

wide range of ideas concerning "salvation" throughout the centuries and millennia, along with its troubled history, that they will see the idea for what it is.
On a purely selfish and personal level, I am 76 years old D M

that is a great project to take on to contribute and have legacy. bravo!.

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Colossians and The Gospel of Thomas - a work in progress

by Doug Mason in

as i prepare the pre-draft stage of my study into the evolutions of salvation, i have drafted a chapter on colossians and on the gospel of thomas.

http://www.jwstudies.com/colossians_soteriologies.pdf.

http://www.jwstudies.com/the_soteriology_of_thomas.pdf.

waton

Yes, all in the present tense. D M :

do you have any doctrinal views on this passage or just scriptural interests?

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I finally get why people like to shun.

by poopie in

jw
friends

it finally hit me today.

why do religions enjoy shunning.

because many people feel like being close to god makes them special however just being special is not enough for many religious people that shun they must feel extra special how?

waton

For some, the df/da announcement gives them the freedom to really show their true colours and act out, vent their venom.

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Colossians and The Gospel of Thomas - a work in progress

by Doug Mason in

as i prepare the pre-draft stage of my study into the evolutions of salvation, i have drafted a chapter on colossians and on the gospel of thomas.

http://www.jwstudies.com/colossians_soteriologies.pdf.

http://www.jwstudies.com/the_soteriology_of_thomas.pdf.

waton

Colossians? a colossal task. How about Col. 1:13. The kingdom already established, the one of the Son and his love? way ahead of 1914! or the (n)ever coming millennium.

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Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded

by UnshackleTheChains in

surely these men must see what's going on.

if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.

if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.

waton

The Euphoria that comes with such a high position is in part hormone driven, re-inforced with the occasional luxurious splendor few of us ever experience.

Even Hitler's expression seem to indicate that he could not believe this is happening to him. It is not their fault.

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"There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

by unsure in

(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

waton

us: looking at nature, it appears to me that he would resemble an obsessive artist, hobbyist, that cares little what others would think of his work, he likes to reward success though.

Many theorist have the opinion that time is fundamental, eternal, and with it energy as the possession of such an extra dimensional being.

He certainly has imbued living matter through the outworking of the laws with an extraordinary drive to thrive, just looked at all the spring flowers and buds budding today.

His work is good enough that he does not need to tinker again. (contrary what Newton thought).

I am a skilled tradesman, and I have yet to see anything, even the fundamentals rise from nothing, and that is the final frontier, the given we have to accept, how it was done , no matter,-- enjoy it, make the best. happiness comes from creating.

PS: Creation is the undeniable evidence that there is a creator. Since he left it for us to pry out the evidence how things work (were created) and allowed curiosity to roam freely, how could he, if there is an accounting, fault you from asking for a more direct method that suits you? If there is a hidden meaning to our lives (which is not apparent from just living a natural life) using this life well,- should be a good recommendation before a person that appears to be so pragmatic and direct in his works. just my thought on that today.