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Do you think everyone will be slaves in the New System?
by Iamallcool inafter the big a comes, they will have alot of work to do.
i think they would be shocked and disappointed.
according to the scriptures that at the end of 1000 year reign, alot of people will fail the test.
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Scully
According to the scriptures that at the end of 1000 year reign, alot of people will fail the test. Jehovah already knew it.
In other words, Jehovah, already knowing that a lot of people will fail the test, puts them through all that for nothing. In other words, he's a big jerk.
It's like being hired at a store in mid-November with the promise of full-time work - hoping that you'll still have a job on December 26, but in all likelihood you're getting fired anyway.
Who needs that?
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Do you think everyone will be slaves in the New System?
by Iamallcool inafter the big a comes, they will have alot of work to do.
i think they would be shocked and disappointed.
according to the scriptures that at the end of 1000 year reign, alot of people will fail the test.
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Scully
One of the things that bothered me about Armageddon™ was that Jehovah was going to make a huge mess of the earth that mankind had built up, and then leave a handful of people to clean up the mess.
I mean, if he's Almighty God, why not restore the earth to the paradise he intended with one swipe of his hand, instead of expecting mere humans to clean up his mess.
When I mentioned this to women JW friends, they were like "Yeah, I do enough cleaning already - I don't want to do more!" If I mentioned this to male JW friends, they gave me a blank stare... they didn't get it... because *their* intention was to become princes on the earth... to have people cleaning up after them!! So it seemed perfectly logical that the clean up work of the New System™ would be done by other people!
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This years Memorial talk outline
by gingerbread inperhaps i've missed seeing it.... can anyone provide a scan or link to the 2014 memorial talk and the following sunday's public 'special talk'?.
ginger.
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Scully
Here's the general synopsis, as I remember it. I'm pretty sure I haven't left anything out.
Let's awkwardly sing Song # ___
*prayer*
Blah blah blah blah - this bread means my body - don't you DARE eat it if you're not Anointed™ blah blah blah
*prayer*
Blah blah blah blah - this wine means my blood - don't you DARE drink it if you're not Anointed™ blah blah blah
*prayer*
Blah blah blah blah - keep doing this in remembrance of me (y'all come back now, y'hear?)
Let's awkwardly sing Song # ____
*prayer*
Let's all get the hell outta here before the parking lot jams. We don't want to be late for the Chinese buffet....
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"Keep Doing This In Remembrance Of Me"...keep doing what???
by minimus inif a witness tells you that jesus commanded you to go to the memorial, how would you respond?.
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Scully
The average JW goes to The Memorial™ to warm a seat and nothing else. I can warm a seat in the comfort of my home, dressed in my pyjamas and accomplish more, while watching my favorite TV shows.
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Is this new donation arrangement for real?
by nugget injust read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.
congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.
congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.
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Scully
If they want to get more donations, they're going to have to cave and start letting JWs become sufficiently educated and accumulate their own wealth and financial security.
For decades, they've strongly discouraged higher education and material prosperity as being Snares of Satan the Devil™. Is it really any surprise that the average JW living according to the WTS's demands for a Simple Life™ don't have the kind of disposable income available to them to support the WTS in the manner in which it has become accustomed? And after following The Slave's™ direction for decades, and having nothing to show for their stupidity Obedience™, is it any wonder that JWs are becoming less willing to share their hard earned money with the-monster-that-must-constantly-be-fed, and instead maybe take a real vacation once in a while and maybe spring for a new vehicle instead of buying a pre-owned one? Or maybe help finance their kids' education so they don't get stuck in the same financial rut with a dead-end job, no pension, and nothing to show for all their hard work?
I agree with metatron - I hope this scheme backfires on them BIG TIME. I hope most JWs tell the WTS to eff-off spectacularly, even if they never leave the JWs, by closing their wallets and check books permanently.
CT Russell always said that the day the money stopped coming in would be the day the WTS would close its doors. That day is looming and I hope it comes soon!
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Anyone going to the memorial this year?
by Pyramid God ini was invited by my parents, and even though i have nothing but contempt for this religion, things have been good in our relationship so i was considering going just to appease them.
anyone else?.
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Scully
This will be the 20th anniversary of the last Memorial™ I attended. After the way I was treated that night, at a time in my life when I needed support and encouragement the most, there is no way I will ever put myself through that again.
I technically could go - I have no plans for Monday evening - however, and I can't stress this enough, I have no desire to participate in a ritual that perpetuates a religious delusion.
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Jehovah's Witness Sex offender's father calls for son's blood refusal to be respected
by Sol Reform inhttp://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-26984935 11 april 2014 last updated at 06:07 et.
sex offender's father calls for son's blood refusal to be respectedthe 23-year-old offender is being held at a psychiatric hospital after self-harming continue reading the main story.
related storiesmental health care 'needs transforming' listenthe effect of floods on mental health watchmental health cuts 'risk lives' watchthe father of a jailed mentally-ill sex offender has told a court his son should have the right to refuse a blood transfusion on religious grounds.
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Scully
If he is mentally ill, how on earth can he "adopt" religious beliefs of any kind? The whole concept of capacity comes into play here, and wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out that the JWs glommed on to this mentally ill sex offender in the hopes of "rehabilitating" him.
Frankly, this kind of practice disgusts me - for the predatory nature of the JWs in manipulating the mentally ill, plus the possibility that a claim of mental illness attracted the JWs to the convicted sex offender - perhaps this is someone who is putting on a good show and using the JWs to help him be released from incarceration.
I'd be inclined to let him refuse a blood transfusion. The mentally ill have the right to refuse all kinds of help, and they are actually refused help as well if their behaviour is bizarre enough. One less sex offender to worry about, imo.
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Is this new donation arrangement for real?
by nugget injust read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.
congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.
congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.
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Scully
Since the inception of the Kingdom Hall Building Fund™ in the '80s, congregations who took advantage of the arrangement have always been beholden to the WTS in perpetuity. The Loan™ would be financed based on the amount of property the congregation was able to procure - the Loan™ amount was never more than the collateral afforded by the value of the property.
The KH would be Dedicated™ to the WTS, essentially making it WTS property. Once the building Loan™ was repaid, the WTS then required that a per-publisher amount be donated every month (i.e., RENT) which was the equivalent of a mortgage payment.
FYI, I don't think the legality of acting as a financial institution (being in the business of financing building loans and collecting interest therefrom) has ever been challenged. I didn't think that a charitable organization could do these types of things.
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Have You Been Invited To The Memorial?
by minimus inone of my best friend's, who is an ex elder had two elders visit him at his home yesterday to invite him to the memorial.
he was cordial to them because they were'nt over the top.. so far, i have had no invites, thank god..
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Scully
I haven't been invited in over a decade, not even by my JW relatives. I find that odd, because you'd think if they were so convinced that they had The Truth™, they'd be bending over backward to make sure I at least knew the date. On the other hand, maybe they just think I'm a lost cause. Either way, by not inviting me, aren't they Bloodguilty™ because they didn't even try?