Posts by doubtfull1799

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Weekly Scripture Twist - aka the Watchtower Study

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“more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.

(matt.

4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.

Cart work - picture speaks for itself

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Weekly Scripture Twist - aka the Watchtower Study

by doubtfull1799 in

“more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.

(matt.

4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.

doubtfull1799

“More than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support. (Matt. 4:4) Elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language. Many refugees have been torn away from their tight-knit extended families, communities, and congregations. They need to sense Jehovah’s love and compassion among their fellow Christians. Otherwise, they may be drawn to unbelieving relatives or compatriots who can relate to their culture and experiences. (1 Cor. 15:33) By making them feel fully accepted in the congregation, we have the privilege to share with Jehovah in “protecting the foreign residents.”—Ps. 146:9.”
Excerpt From: WATCHTOWER. “The Watchtower, May 2017.” iBooks.
“Like the neighborly Samaritan in Jesus’ illustration, we want to help suffering people, including those who are not Witnesses. (Luke 10:33-37) The best way to do so is by sharing the good news with them. “It is important to make clear right away that we are Jehovah’s Witnesses and that our primary mission is to help them spiritually, not materially,” notes an elder who has helped many refugees. “Otherwise, some may associate with us only for personal advantage.”
Excerpt From: WATCHTOWER. “The Watchtower, May 2017.” iBooks.

So in todays' Watchtower, after citing the Good Samaritan parable, the chief lesson we learn from it is, it is our priority to help people SPIRITUALLY rather than MATERIALLY.

Maybe there is a new version of the NWT, but I don't recall reading that the Good Samaritan preached the good news to the robbed man???

Also note how they are to make sure their love bombing is sufficient to stop the refugees from being drawn to compassionate non-witnesses!

And how they can "share with Jehovah in protecting the foreign residents." I don't see Jehovah doing any protecting? If he was doing his share of protecting they would not be refugees in the first place, right?

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Forcing a meaning?

by CitizenofEarth in

i was looking for the word that jwfacts.com used for "forcing a meaning" into ex.

a scripture.

fx.

doubtfull1799

I think impregnate is the word you're looking for?

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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed

by pale.emperor in

just approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.

they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.

i asked if they were jehovahs witness.

doubtfull1799

I was one of those witnesses that HAD to know it all inside out. I studied like a fiend for pleasure even in my school years. I was by no means the golden boy of the KH, i just found the theology and bible history fascinating. 1914 always presented a problem to me though. Even when i believed it i strongly believed that we shouldn't be trying to work out dates from the bible. But if asked by someone (which almost never happened) i was able to explain it, but i knew how ridiculous it sounded as i was saying it.
So it's frustrating to me now that im out that the next generation of JWs have absolutely no clue of the deeper things the bible talks of, the deeper things of the torah, the gammatria, the greek words etc. I feel like an old timer looking at the youth of today in despair and im only 32!

I so relate to this. Me too!

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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed

by pale.emperor in

just approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.

they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.

i asked if they were jehovahs witness.

doubtfull1799

Unbelievable isn't it? How lazy the preaching work has become. There is a virtually permanent cart set up outside my office in the city where I work because I am in the heart of the CBD. I don't try and talk to them because all the ones who man the cart know me (I was a speaker at circuit and district level so everyone in the city knows me) But I NEVER see them talking to anyone except fellow brothers who happen to pass by. 99% of the time they just sit there talking among themselves or looking totally bored playing on their phones.

I compare them to the numerous charity workers all around them that also work in the CBD. Now I'm not a big fan of paid charity collectors and they become really annoying when you work in the city and have them approach you every day, but at least they are actually working unlike the witnesses who are just keeping seats warm. They are actively engaging with the community. And they work really hard. They are on their feet all day approaching people from the early morning till I leave the office, they are still going. Wheras the brothers come and go for their little one or two hour shifts...

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ARTICLE - Cults and Terrorism: Can We Establish Parallels Between Noxious Belief Systems?

by jwleaks in

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cults and terrorism: can we establish parallels between noxious belief systems?.

july 5, 2017. by sarah mills.

https://conatusnews.com/cults-terrorism-parallels/.

doubtfull1799

The Society loves to try and prove that they are not a cult by setting up a straw man argument - i.e. picking their own selective definition of what a cult is or what defines a cult and then arguing against those points. This is a good rebuttal to that.

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ARTICLE - Cults and Terrorism: Can We Establish Parallels Between Noxious Belief Systems?

by jwleaks in

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cults and terrorism: can we establish parallels between noxious belief systems?.

july 5, 2017. by sarah mills.

https://conatusnews.com/cults-terrorism-parallels/.

doubtfull1799

However I found it to to be a well reasoned piece with a good and accurate knowledge of how the Society operates and how the doctrines work. I thought it well demonstrated how they support the hypothesis that the Societies ways fit the definitions of cult as defined by the psychologist cited.

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What does it take to qualify for cart/trolley work?

by Londo111 in

if memory serves me, when it was first introduced elders had to fill out a form to grade a jw, and only those who made the grade could do the carts.. i didn’t realize until sir82 said something on another discussion that the process had changed.. what is the process nowadays?

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doubtfull1799

And then there was the whole insurance issue which was one of the things that started to wake me up. The fact that the Society wanted to distance itself legally from the carts and wanted the brothers to have their own private insurance. And wanted the brothers to say they were doing the work of their now initiative if they got into any legal troubles, that they were not instructed by the Society in any way, which was an outright lie as per my above comments...

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What does it take to qualify for cart/trolley work?

by Londo111 in

if memory serves me, when it was first introduced elders had to fill out a form to grade a jw, and only those who made the grade could do the carts.. i didn’t realize until sir82 said something on another discussion that the process had changed.. what is the process nowadays?

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doubtfull1799

Just before I left it was becoming so micromanaged. The CO was coming with instructions form head office on exactly hows to lay the carts out, which books/tracts to put where, how to line them all up. How to place two carts next to each other in the right configuration etc etc.. I was thinking next we will have point of sale marketing experts coming in to advise us....