I think the second reference in Acts that was removed was for the same reason - it doesn't fit the model. That account (if you read the context) is referring to a small gathering for a meal on someone's home - it is not referring to a congregation meeting.
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NWT - revised 1984 vs revised 2013 versions
by Tallon inin the latest 2013 revision the footnote of john chapter 8 states; a number of ancient and authoritative manuscripts omit vs 53 (of chapter 7) to chapter 8, vs. 11.. yet the 1984 revision quotes a similar footnote, however the passage of scripture is included in the text, albeit separately at the bottom.
this passage of scripture is about the scribes and the pharisees who brought a woman that was accused of adultery before jesus to test him on the punishment to be meted out.
then came his famous reply; let the one of you that is sinless be the first to throw a stone at her.. i just found it interesting that the wtbts would leave this out in the latest revision.
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Thought Bubbles Then & Now
by steve2 inmy thought bubble in the 1980s:.
"how can i engage with worldly people when they are just not interested in discussing these important topics as featured in the watchtower and awake?.
my thought bubble in the 2010s:.
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@Steve2 - brilliant. I have the same thoughts bubbles exactly!
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Loyalty - Part of the New Personality (S-341a-18-E 5/17)
by wifibandit inloyalty—part of the new personality (s-341a-18-e 5/17).
note to the circuit overseer:.
use this outline for the tuesday service talk from september 2017 through february 2018. you will need to prepare your own 30-minute service talk for use after the watchtower study.
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"Love for Jehovah should never be separated from the personal attachment that a couple have foreach other (Mt 22:37)"
What does that sentence even mean? Sounds creepy!
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July 7, 2017 Re: Needs in the Field—Training Others
by wifibandit injuly 7, 2017 to all field missionaries, special pioneers, temporary special pioneers and regular pioneers re: needs in the field—training others.
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They are so good at double-speak aren't they.
The 2010 letter says, and I paraphrase, the Pioneer Assist Program has been such as success..... we're discontinuing it!!! Mmmm, don't you usually continue with or even expand something that is a success?
I distinctly remember those years serving as a pioneer Elder and never once being able to successfully implement the program. Every pairing we made never got really got started of fizzled out within a month or two. So when they say it has fulfilled its purpose - I don't think so. I think their other (vague) reason given is the true one - "for other practical reasons..."which are conveniently not specified.
And now here we are only 7 years later and they're re-introducing the program under a different (and perhaps less formal) guise. Perhaps they still remember the lesson form last time - to make it too formal an arrangement just doesn't work.
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Weekly Scripture Twist - aka the Watchtower Study
by doubtfull1799 in“more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.
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4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.
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Brilliant FatFreek 2005.
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Weekly Scripture Twist - aka the Watchtower Study
by doubtfull1799 in“more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.
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4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.
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“More than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support. (Matt. 4:4) Elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language. Many refugees have been torn away from their tight-knit extended families, communities, and congregations. They need to sense Jehovah’s love and compassion among their fellow Christians. Otherwise, they may be drawn to unbelieving relatives or compatriots who can relate to their culture and experiences. (1 Cor. 15:33) By making them feel fully accepted in the congregation, we have the privilege to share with Jehovah in “protecting the foreign residents.”—Ps. 146:9.”
Excerpt From: WATCHTOWER. “The Watchtower, May 2017.” iBooks.
“Like the neighborly Samaritan in Jesus’ illustration, we want to help suffering people, including those who are not Witnesses. (Luke 10:33-37) The best way to do so is by sharing the good news with them. “It is important to make clear right away that we are Jehovah’s Witnesses and that our primary mission is to help them spiritually, not materially,” notes an elder who has helped many refugees. “Otherwise, some may associate with us only for personal advantage.”
Excerpt From: WATCHTOWER. “The Watchtower, May 2017.” iBooks.So in todays' Watchtower, after citing the Good Samaritan parable, the chief lesson we learn from it is, it is our priority to help people SPIRITUALLY rather than MATERIALLY.
Maybe there is a new version of the NWT, but I don't recall reading that the Good Samaritan preached the good news to the robbed man???
Also note how they are to make sure their love bombing is sufficient to stop the refugees from being drawn to compassionate non-witnesses!
And how they can "share with Jehovah in protecting the foreign residents." I don't see Jehovah doing any protecting? If he was doing his share of protecting they would not be refugees in the first place, right?
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Forcing a meaning?
by CitizenofEarth ini was looking for the word that jwfacts.com used for "forcing a meaning" into ex.
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doubtfull1799
I think impregnate is the word you're looking for?
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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed
by pale.emperor injust approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.
they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.
i asked if they were jehovahs witness.
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I was one of those witnesses that HAD to know it all inside out. I studied like a fiend for pleasure even in my school years. I was by no means the golden boy of the KH, i just found the theology and bible history fascinating. 1914 always presented a problem to me though. Even when i believed it i strongly believed that we shouldn't be trying to work out dates from the bible. But if asked by someone (which almost never happened) i was able to explain it, but i knew how ridiculous it sounded as i was saying it.
So it's frustrating to me now that im out that the next generation of JWs have absolutely no clue of the deeper things the bible talks of, the deeper things of the torah, the gammatria, the greek words etc. I feel like an old timer looking at the youth of today in despair and im only 32!I so relate to this. Me too!
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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed
by pale.emperor injust approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.
they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.
i asked if they were jehovahs witness.
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Unbelievable isn't it? How lazy the preaching work has become. There is a virtually permanent cart set up outside my office in the city where I work because I am in the heart of the CBD. I don't try and talk to them because all the ones who man the cart know me (I was a speaker at circuit and district level so everyone in the city knows me) But I NEVER see them talking to anyone except fellow brothers who happen to pass by. 99% of the time they just sit there talking among themselves or looking totally bored playing on their phones.
I compare them to the numerous charity workers all around them that also work in the CBD. Now I'm not a big fan of paid charity collectors and they become really annoying when you work in the city and have them approach you every day, but at least they are actually working unlike the witnesses who are just keeping seats warm. They are actively engaging with the community. And they work really hard. They are on their feet all day approaching people from the early morning till I leave the office, they are still going. Wheras the brothers come and go for their little one or two hour shifts...