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  1975: Much ado about nothing?

  by dutyfree in

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  many of the senior witnesses out there, i am sure will remember the spring/summer of 1975 and the amount of excitement that was in the air surrounding the anticipation of what the new year would bring.. i have no recollection of such events as i was still in short trousers and wearing a strange cap, but anyway.... fred franz, the vice president at the time gave many talks to 000's of people about how much everyone was looking forward to 1975 and the wonderful things it would bring... without making an explicit statement as such, but the implications were all there.

  these talks actually began in about 1966. the anticipation grew too much for some people and many began to heed mr franz's advice about selling their property to live out the last months on the earth in the pioneer service.

  he also encouraged the young people not to pursue a career but rather to be more active in "the truth".

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  I, too, lived through the 1975 fiasco and remember it vividly.
  An elderly sister in my congregation put aside major surgery and died. That was all right... she'd be resurrected in a few months anyway....NOT!!
  Not only were we not apologized to, we were slapped on the wrist for being gullible to believe Armageddon would actually come as predicted. We were told that the Society had never directly stated that Armageddon would come in '75 (although the implications were undeniable and extraordinary). I remember attending a District Assembly in Atlanta shortly after we were all reeling from our no-1975 hangovers. The speaker was an eloquent District Overseer (can't remember his name) who told us point blank that 1975 marked 6000 years of the creation of Adam. Since Armageddon wouldn't come until the 6000th anniversary of the creation of Eve, and the Bible does not state the amount of time between Adam's creation and Eve's creation, to quote him exactly: "We are now out on uncharted waters". That was as close to an apology as they ever got.
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  Coming Out Experiences

  by Preston in

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  hi, this is my first post so i would like to get some things off of my chest.

  i recently had to leave my congregation after five years after deciding to take a proactive stance regarding my beliefs and the fact that i found it necessary to come out to the congregation regarding my queerness (i usually try to stay away from labels like straight or bi since i think they are deceptive).

  i was very active in my congregation: i was a ministerial servant, i handled the accounts, and i performed a lot of other duties.

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  SanFranciscoJim

  Preston, I'll drop you a few lines privately & copy in some of my other contacts in the Phoenix area.
  Did you see the article in Echo magazine a couple of years back about gay JW's? We've copied it on our website (with their permission) at: http://www.gayxjw.org/echo.html
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  Versions of the bible

  by dutyfree in

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  there are many versions of the bible, as we all know.

  we have the king james version, the new international version (the most widely accepted one), the new world translation.... in the nwt version, we will find the word jehovah about 237 times.

  yet, in the original greek manuscript it does not appear once.

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  SanFranciscoJim

  I'm currently studying several books which have an entirely different take on the Tetragrammaton (YHWH). According to what I've been reading, the reason the ancient Hebrews did not pronounce the "name of God" was because it wasn't a name at all, but a mathematical equation for the essence of the universe. I'm not particularly good at math, but one scientist shows through geometry how by assigning the numerical value of the Hebrew letters, the equation equals the number 144. Weird, eh?
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  Scriptures the society refuses to mention....

  by TheApostleAK in

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  how about zechariah 1:12 and 7:5??.

  look up when darius started reigning and you get the picture why they'll never mention these scriptures ever.. anyone got any others?

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  SanFranciscoJim

  "I am distressed over you, my brother Jonathan. Very pleasant you were to me. More wonderful was your love to me than the love from women." (2 Sam. 1:26 NWT)
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  Coming Out Experiences

  by Preston in

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  hi, this is my first post so i would like to get some things off of my chest.

  i recently had to leave my congregation after five years after deciding to take a proactive stance regarding my beliefs and the fact that i found it necessary to come out to the congregation regarding my queerness (i usually try to stay away from labels like straight or bi since i think they are deceptive).

  i was very active in my congregation: i was a ministerial servant, i handled the accounts, and i performed a lot of other duties.

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  SanFranciscoJim

  Preston, you are most certainly not alone. I have over 500 names on my personal correspondence list of gay & lesbian JW's and ex-JW's. I was disfellowshipped 21 years ago for "conduct unbecoming a Christian" (we all know what that means!) and over the years have assisted in the development of a worldwide support network for gay/lesbian JW's & ex-JW's called "A Common Bond". I am webmaster of the San Francisco ACB site: http://www.gayxjw.org/ in case you haven't been there yet. Are you still in Arizona? If so, I know quite a few others there I would be happy to put you in contact with.
  Cheers! JIM
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  Sex Therapy For You J.W. Prudes

  by SanFranciscoJim in

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  i won't mention any names.. you know who you are!.

  please visit this link.....now!!!

  your sex life may depend on it!!.

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  SanFranciscoJim

  I won't mention any names.
  You know who you are!
  Please visit this link.....NOW!!! Your sex life may depend on it!!
  * http://www.muttonbone.com/loveewe.html
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  Anyone Have the District Conv. Schedule?

  by SanFranciscoJim in

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  would someone please post or email me the schedule (i believe it's in either the february 1 or february 15 watchtower) for the english-language district assemblies being held at the cow palace in daly city (san francisco area), california?.

  thanks!!

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  Actually, Gopher, I was coming to Minneapolis in August for the third international conference of A Common Bond, but found that it will be held on the same weekend I've already made arrangements to be in Nova Scotia, so maybe next time.
  By the way, if you're interested in the conference, go to http://www.gayxjw.org/ and click on the conference link (heterosexuals are welcome!).
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  Anyone Have the District Conv. Schedule?

  by SanFranciscoJim in

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  would someone please post or email me the schedule (i believe it's in either the february 1 or february 15 watchtower) for the english-language district assemblies being held at the cow palace in daly city (san francisco area), california?.

  thanks!!

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  SanFranciscoJim

  WOW! That was fast!
  Thank you so much.... I have to rely on my 74 year old mother for my magazines, but she lives clear across the country & I get them in quarterly "care packages".
  Thanks again!
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  Anyone Have the District Conv. Schedule?

  by SanFranciscoJim in

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  would someone please post or email me the schedule (i believe it's in either the february 1 or february 15 watchtower) for the english-language district assemblies being held at the cow palace in daly city (san francisco area), california?.

  thanks!!

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  SanFranciscoJim

  Would someone please post or email me the schedule (I believe it's in either the February 1 or February 15 Watchtower) for the English-language District Assemblies being held at the Cow Palace in Daly City (San Francisco area), California?
  Thanks!!!
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  The Natural Law fallacy and Homosexuality

  by JanH in

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  there is a fallacy of logic that is so common that few people realize that it is, indeed, a fallacy of logic: the fallacy by appeal to nature.. one argument against homosexuality goes something like this:.

  the natural use of the reproductive organs is obviously to make children.

  using these organs in a way that cannot produce children is unnatural and thus ethically wrong.. .

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  SanFranciscoJim

  I hear a heterosexual man who is secure enough in his own sexuality that he can deal with such issues in a calm, rational manner.
  Besides, he's Norwegian!