Great advice searcher and freddo. Keep calm, Stick to your guns. Referencing Matt 5:23,24 & Matt 18:15 is excellent advice. You are under no obligation to divulge anything to them but they will try and make you admit to something so the less you say the better.
konceptual99
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The Elders want to meet with me and the hubby... Lol lol lol
by Sevan inso the elders called wanting to meet with me and my husband.
most likely because i told a concerned jw friend of mine that i really care about that i wasn't coming back and a couple of the issues i had.
i didn't bring up any so-called "apostate" information, just told her about the australian royal commission and that there are a lot of unscriptural teachings and that the gb apply scriptures that are about jehovah and jesus to themselves, which is idolatry.
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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I've just got in from a long day Kate and trying to digest your comments. Maybe I need to sleep on them as right now all I seem to be getting is a message that you now accept that there is empirical evidence to support a purely naturalistic solution to the question of why there is this l/h bias in nature yet still attribute this bias to a supernatural entity. You are also not prepared to offer this l/h bias as evidence for the existence of a supernatural entity.
It seems to me that at some point you read or were otherwise persuaded that the l/h bias was evidence for God and simply cannot give up this desire to think there is a greater consciousness out there. To be fair you're not the first person to do so - the WTS even offered up another chemist on the boredcasting (mis-spelling deliberate) recently saying the same thing. Like others, you can't even maintain an open mind that makes no conclusion. You seem to have to maintain a belief yet you cannot explain, reason or justify this belief. It's so nebulous, so woolly and abstract that you are even prepared to suggest that it's an entity of your own definition.
Please correct me if I've misunderstood your position. If not, then it has to be the most bonkers position I have heard in a long time.
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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I don't really remember you. Have we spoken before?
I don't think we have. I just enjoyed your comment to Perry and how much it brought back all those times you've shown no sufferance for that type of foolish nonsense in the past.
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Clickable Link Function
by cofty inhi simon - the site seems to be stripping out links.. can work around it by pasting the url but it was neater to be able to embed the link in some text.
is it a temp glitch?.
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Affected in what way?
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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Don't know if this will be of any interest Kate but it's a work that references Soai's 1995 work and is publicly available. It's beyond me TBH but looks fun!
http://jsystchem.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/1759-2208-1-8
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Fading 2.0
by pale.emperor inthe following examples are true.
witnessed by myself and many many other jw's of my age generation.. they're examples of a successful fade, and a failed fade and what we can learn from them.. the successful fade.
sister c - she gets baptized at 19yo.
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Yup Kate - the problem is that being identified as a trouble maker is worse than most other crimes in WT world. It's one step down from being labelled an apostate, which we all know is the worst of the worst.
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Clickable Link Function
by cofty inhi simon - the site seems to be stripping out links.. can work around it by pasting the url but it was neater to be able to embed the link in some text.
is it a temp glitch?.
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konceptual99
The links to Nature have been fine but Kate and I are having a problem linking to pages in a thread. If you see our recent posts on the L/H molecule thread then you will see a couple of examples.
On this note, is there going to be a way of linking to a specific post?
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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I am hoping it will be way above my secondary school level of chemistry and I will be unable to understand the detail Kate!
The link thing is odd. Neither of ours work. Let's try this - readers will just have to go to page 8 (or 4) depending on their post per page settings.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5727195389493248/seeking-support-where-can-christian-go
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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That's where this thread started. Kate was responding to my comments elsewhere that (a) I was frustrated at the way every conversation where a deity was introduced to explain some or all of the naturalistic processes we see around us ended with the believer obfuscated straight forward arguments with any number of logical fallacies and diversionary tactics (in that case accusing Cofty of bullying) and (b) how I thought Kate, as someone with a formal scientific background, should be a perfect person to demonstrate how the scientific method supports her conclusions that a deity is involved.
We now end up here. 28 pages into a thread where the lack of adherence to logic, reason and fairly basic science is yet another glowing example of cause of my original frustration. It's yet another case that proves the point.
I really hope that Kate's response to Cofty, after 28 pages, will be the well thought out and logical argument that gives a solid reason as to why l/h bias supports the influence of a creator and cannot be down to naturalistic causes. In other words - the post that should have been presented right as post 1 on this whole damn thread.
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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How I've missed Viv's mindless flapping as she struggles to make her point.