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  Rejecting something due to unscriptural or pagan origins.....?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
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  so witnesses reject many practices or holidays due to their "unscriptural or pagan" origins.. for example, birthday celebrations, mothers or father's day, christmas etc..... most people in the world will say "but the origin doesn't matter anymore, we follow this custom now because it's a joyful occasion that creates happy times and brings the family together".

  it is still firmly rejected.. so, if the wrong origin is so important, and should result in rejecting something, why isn't the same principle applied to the actual jehovah's witness faith itself!?.

  after all, the very foundation of the organisation was based on wrong understandings of the bible, far fetched teachings and doctrines, links to false religious backgrounds, pyramidology, false predictions, inaccurate beliefs etc...... using their reasoning, it doesn't matter how good something is now, if the origin was faulty to begin with?

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  A great post which has double bubble bonus points for a fantastic response from Terry.

  We really should have a "Lurkers Must Read" forum with links to threads like this one.
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  Elderly sister disgusted with obscene Bethel 'Happy Song'

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is reported that one elderly sister in british columbia expressed complete disgust at what she considered an obscene act in the bethel 'happy song'.

  now everything is, of course, subject to perspective.

  i would imagine her perspective is just as valuable as anyone elses.

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  Elderly Witnesses can hardly recognise the religion they joined 40,50,60 years ago.

  Some are just about keeping up with the rise of technology, JW Broadcasting events, dumbed down Bibles and rehashed promises. Howver, many are increasingly disenfranchised and either shutting up whilst they wait to die or papering over the cracks from their cognitive dissonance by convincing themselves that "it's all beyond me but Jehovah's chariot is speeding up".
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  Yet more trolley (in)activity

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am currently having to spend a little time waiting for an appointment in the vicinity of a central london station.

  whilst waiting i am catching up on some work in a cafe.

  i can see a couple of trolleys and have been watching them for around an hour now.. not one person has stopped to take literature.

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  The question these people should be asking is "What exactly have I done to help people today?". You can argue that the D2D work is actively seeking people to reach with a message. You can argue that approaching people in the street and engaging with them is actively seeking people to reach with a message.

  Standing next to a trolley not looking at people, not trying to initiate conversations and not engaging is not actively seeking people with a message. It's a waste of time masquerading as God's work.
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  Band Green Day and JWs

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a few years ago i heard of a story about two jw's being at a green day concert.

  i think that the witnesses were bethelites.

  the person that told me that story said that the band was about to play but they couldn't.

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  konceptual99

  Eels did write a song about Jehovah's Witnesses once...
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  Yet more trolley (in)activity

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am currently having to spend a little time waiting for an appointment in the vicinity of a central london station.

  whilst waiting i am catching up on some work in a cafe.

  i can see a couple of trolleys and have been watching them for around an hour now.. not one person has stopped to take literature.

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  Wow - after almost 3.5 hours the trolley minder has a customer but he has gone as quickly as he came.
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  Yet more trolley (in)activity

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am currently having to spend a little time waiting for an appointment in the vicinity of a central london station.

  whilst waiting i am catching up on some work in a cafe.

  i can see a couple of trolleys and have been watching them for around an hour now.. not one person has stopped to take literature.

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  Apparently so. I've been working here almost three hours and there has been literally ZERO interest. The only conversations have been lost tourists.

  It's worse than the doors but what an easy way for pioneers to get their hours.
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  Band Green Day and JWs

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a few years ago i heard of a story about two jw's being at a green day concert.

  i think that the witnesses were bethelites.

  the person that told me that story said that the band was about to play but they couldn't.

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  konceptual99

  Made up.

  Just like the same made up stories about John Denver.
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  Yet more trolley (in)activity

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am currently having to spend a little time waiting for an appointment in the vicinity of a central london station.

  whilst waiting i am catching up on some work in a cafe.

  i can see a couple of trolleys and have been watching them for around an hour now.. not one person has stopped to take literature.

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  konceptual99

  Indeed. This is would be my contribution to such a gallery. It does show the elder doing something, actually helping someone in need. Even if it's only a lost tourist....

  
  
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  Yet more trolley (in)activity

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am currently having to spend a little time waiting for an appointment in the vicinity of a central london station.

  whilst waiting i am catching up on some work in a cafe.

  i can see a couple of trolleys and have been watching them for around an hour now.. not one person has stopped to take literature.

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  Now the overseeing elder has come along and is taking pictures of the inactivity for posterity...
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  Yet more trolley (in)activity

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am currently having to spend a little time waiting for an appointment in the vicinity of a central london station.

  whilst waiting i am catching up on some work in a cafe.

  i can see a couple of trolleys and have been watching them for around an hour now.. not one person has stopped to take literature.

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  konceptual99

  I am currently having to spend a little time waiting for an appointment in the vicinity of a central London station. Whilst waiting I am catching up on some work in a cafe. I can see a couple of trolleys and have been watching them for around an hour now.

  Not one person has stopped to take literature. They have had a couple of lost tourists and a couple who were obviously Witnesses come and say hello. The only other attention they have had is some stares in the direction of one of the sisters from passing white van men. There are literally hundreds of people walking past every 10-15 mins. There is zero effort to engage with the public - not even making eye contact and smiling.

  I appreciate this is not exactly breaking news but it is yet further confirmation that the new approach is just as much of a waste of time as the traditional D2D work.