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  Germany in charge of all treasury for Europe

  by sp74bb in

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  according to our sources, germany bethel will take in charge all treasuries for all europe starting sept 1st.. each bethel will deliver the funds as a donation to german legal entity.. gold ages for ibsa and other entities in eu are over :).

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  Long term planning at Beooklyn worse than atBHS (failed UK retailer) if consolidation a prospects and decline of printing why plan a Chelmsford? How this is sold to loyal dubs will be interesting or will mention ofChelmsford vanish from any future talks, printing, videos etc?

  Not really... there is still a need for distribution and administration facilities. The bonus for the WTS is that loyal dubs in the UK have been donating to a project on the understanding it's a big build. So they have the funds in for a large development but only spending a portion of it. Sounds like excellent business to me.

  
  
  
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  Do JW beliefs deserve respect?

  by azor in

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  what say you?

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  konceptual99

  So how should I treat my wife? How should I treat my in-laws? They are all in the same place I was until I woke up.

  Should I be sneering at them? Ridiculing them for still believing the tripe that the WT peddles?

  As far as I can tell the logic and reasoning that underpins critical thinking can be presented logically and reasonably without being unnecessarily confrontational. I see no reason to allow lack of respect for JW doctrine to translate into spite towards the person.
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  Sometimes I feel like I Should Believe something...

  by freemamaof3 in

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  has anyone else felt like they should believe something after leaving wt?

  i am an agnostic atheist and its so so hard for me to believe in a god or higher power.

  it just doesn't make sense.

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  konceptual99

  There's plenty to believe in. I've learnt you don't need to base it around fairytales, bad science or superstition.
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  Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?

  by slimboyfat in

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  sometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.

  i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.

  a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.

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  konceptual99

  We have lots of affluent territories in our area (south east UK) and I have heard it time after time after time over the years.
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  Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?

  by slimboyfat in

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  sometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.

  i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.

  a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.

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  konceptual99

  You must either be deaf, irregular on the ministry or never worked affluent areas hippy :-)
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

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  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  konceptual99

  What evidence is there that pursuing a legal route makes any real difference?

  There might be a minority of cases where the elders, on the advice of the legal desk, determine discretion is the better of valour and forego the formality of a JC however they always find a way to discredit the individual and shunning as per normal is the order of the day.

  If p.e knows there is zero actual evidence then denying it is a valid route but if evidence does come to light then the elders will take a dim view.

  If there is evidence then p.e has very little to work with unless the method the evidence came to light by really, really can be legally, even criminally, challenged.

  The WT 87 9/1 "A Time To Speak" discusses a hypothetical situation covering medical confidentiality and leaves the door wide open for ones to put tale telling above their legal responsibilities. Don't expect the congregation to dismiss information coming via legally questionable sources. It might (and I stress might) prevent a formal JC being formed but the grapevine will put into action and shunning will ensue.
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  Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?

  by slimboyfat in

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  sometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.

  i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.

  a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.

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  Two things have been consistent about my experience of working affluent areas:

  1 - "these people won't be interested, they already have their paradise"

  2 - "I want this house after Armageddon"
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  Germany in charge of all treasury for Europe

  by sp74bb in

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  2. friends

  according to our sources, germany bethel will take in charge all treasuries for all europe starting sept 1st.. each bethel will deliver the funds as a donation to german legal entity.. gold ages for ibsa and other entities in eu are over :).

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  Perhaps. Don't forget that right now they are likely years away from losimg their tax free status. There is no significant and fast moving investigation by the CC. Even if the CC did rule against the org then it simply becomes a long and protracted legal battle.

  The major driver for a move to Germany is simple economic common sense given the reduction in printing. There are other factors that come into play but nothing like what happened in France for example.
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  konceptual99

  I am pale.emperor
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  Germany in charge of all treasury for Europe

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to our sources, germany bethel will take in charge all treasuries for all europe starting sept 1st.. each bethel will deliver the funds as a donation to german legal entity.. gold ages for ibsa and other entities in eu are over :).

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  konceptual99

  Just for clarity.... I think that the possibility of a CC investigation into the real charitable status and tax affairs of the British branch is a real concern, especially in the context of poor perceptions around the handling of child sex abuse cases. I am just not sure that they will be that bothered by the transfer of funds to another charity in itself as that is within the rules.