Posts by konceptual99

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

konceptual99

Some of are still stuck in and it made my day at the CA far more fun :-)

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

konceptual99

Good points Simon and depressedsoul.

I would tend to agree that forcing information on someone is unlikely to change their mind - it's a bit like someone ramming a poster in your face as you leave an assembly.

I think that there a number of positives however, especially when the hotspot is set up by someone not known as an apostate.

1 - it clearly says "there is a dissenter here". If there was more than one hotspot at the same time then it adds some weight

2 - simply using jwfacts.com (or variant) is a clear pointer to perhaps the best site on the net for clear information about Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't think anyone is going to jump to jwfacts in the middle of session but those already feeling unsure about things may get some inspiration to click on that link later

3 - it's a beacon to others who maybe lurking on sites like these that there is a fellow objector close by. I would be bowled over if I knew there was one or two others at the CA who were mentally with me

4 - it does not cause a scene that just reinforces the stereotype of the embittered apostate

5 - you can participate from below the radar. Just enabling the link last weekend gave me nervous buzz that I had not experienced since first clicking on the link to JWN. I felt I was doing a little something, doing more than just sitting in my own little bubble of awareness

6 - it's fairly low risk. I think if it happens a lot then the org may come up with some strategy to try and work out who it is or deal with it in some other way but they cannot search anyone so if you are careful there is very little chance of getting caught

7 - it does make the attendants scurry around wondering who it is. A bit childish really but I was very entertained watching the reaction when I did it.

So, as a tool to wake someone up then on it's own it's probably not going to set the world alight but I like it nonetheless.

Imagine what message it would send if, for example, every person who has mentally woken up set up a hotspot called "I don't believe this anymore" and turned it on all at the same time. If you saw even 10 hotspots within your range then it would be fantastic.

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

konceptual99

One thing I might do differently next time is use a separate phone with no data allowance. This means you could leave the AP open with no worries that others are using your data allowance. It also allows you to use your own phone and hotspot without fear of anyone occidentally realising you are connected to or hosting the "apostate" AP.

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

konceptual99

erm...... tragical...

read the my last post on the previous page...

then read cognac's question two posts above your post...

then read the post above your post....

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Some Recent U.K. Information ...

by The Searcher in

... just received!

london bethel: last year a couple in their fifties were laid off from bethel and made special pioneers.

in january they will be demoted to regular pioneers.

konceptual99

Over this weekend at two CA's - approx 1800 in attendance, 9 baptised.

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Talking with a young elder

by biblexaminer in

i had a discussion with an elder recently.

it was interesting in a macabre sense.

we were outside the kingdom hall on a nice sunny day recently.

konceptual99

@bibleexaminer

I get your reasoning and line of thinking but can you point me to where it says that James sent the men from Judea? According to the NWT, Acts 15:1 says:

Now some men came down from Ju·deʹa and began to teach the brothers: “Unless you get circumcised according to the custom of Moses,+ you cannot be saved.”

The Bearing Witness book commented on this:

Whether these “certain men” had been Pharisees before converting to Christianity is not stated. At the very least, they appear to have been influenced by that Jewish sect’s legalistic thinking. Also, they may have wrongly claimed to speak for the apostles and older men in Jerusalem. (Acts 15:23, 24)

The Acts 15:23,24 scripture in the NWT says:

“The apostles and the elders, your brothers, to those brothers in Antioch,+ Syria, and Ci·liʹcia who are from the nations: Greetings! 24 Since we have heard that some went out from among us and caused you trouble with what they have said,+ trying to subvert you,* although we did not give them any instructions

So, whilst I do think there is a spin on this, it's not clear that James sent an instruction from what I can see. It's an interesting line of reasoning I would like to have in my back pocket but I can't see anything that clearly says James sent them therefore there was a clear dispute between James and Paul. What else should I be looking at?

EDIT - just to point out that I am using the obvious references that one would have to use if talking to a dub. They have to see it in black and white in the NWT and publications...

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

konceptual99

Check back a page cognac. I did it over the weekend.

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

konceptual99

I would like to think that the objective #1 is higher on the list. I'm personally not interested in having people running around, more on just creating something that catches attention and makes people think about going online later. I would have liked to have used jwfacts.com_thetruthaboutthetruth as it's a bit more serious sounding, but it does not fit. Perhaps the OP suggestion of just jwfacts.com is better. Perhaps it does not really make any real difference...

As someone currently trapped in, this was a little bit of activism, a little nod towards some kind of rage against the machine. Maybe it's childish. Maybe it's pissing in the wind. What I do know is that buzz I got when I saw an obvious reaction was real. If there was one other person there who gains a bit of confidence knowing there is at least one other person around who is not mentally shackled, and perhaps takes the next step toward finding out more of TTATT then I would be over the moon.

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Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

by Dunedain in

there were always all types of speakers in the org.

myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

konceptual99

The drama with the "Hi I'm Randy" line in it is a very memorable one for me and a number of others from back in the day. They really didn't think about how it would sound in the UK as well as Oz!

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

konceptual99

So a hotspot was put up today at the CA. jwfacts.com_thetruthaboutdatroof (character limits!)

Most of the time it was closed to prevent too much data usage by third parties but there were at least 17 people on it when it was open for a while.

There was a clear point where it became obvious that the top brass had become aware of it. Lots of scurrying around...