Posts by konceptual99

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Please vaccinate your children

by Viviane in

and remember your boosters as adults!.

currently there is a measles outbreak in the u.s. the outbreak is clustered into communities where parents choose not to get their children vaccinated.

vaccination works primarily on herd immunity.

konceptual99

I was caught up the MMR controversy when my wife was pregnant with our first child. I remember attending an event in London where a self-proclaimed expert provided a heap of information on it. We did not get her vaccinated with the triple jab but she has had single vaccinations.

I don't question anyone's right to be skeptical of doctors and pharmaceutical companies. I don't think that the commercial goals of parts of the health system always are second place to the best for patients. I do wonder if there should be more proper research into some of the claims around various vaccinations. However, as the information about Andrew Wakefield came out I felt completely defrauded. I do, therefore, get pretty indignant about the pseudo science that seems to be endemic in the anti-vaccination, homoeopathy and alternative medicine arenas. So much of it smacks of the same sort of thing I have come to see when Witnesses present creation science and pull in the gullible to accept what is clearly wrong.

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Giving comments at meetings that cause cognitive dissonance while keeping yourself below elder radar for apostasy

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well i'm sure we can come up with clever comments that make people feel uncomfortable by serving to decompartmentalize things that have been compartmentalized in the thinking of the average jw.

or comments that make the cognitive dissonance stand out plainly, these have to be said in innocent manner and with an apparent obliviousness to the contradiction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/compartmentalization_%28psychology%29.

konceptual99

So can we look forward to an increase of comments on here about the latest crazy answer we have heard at the meeting and start wondering if the person is perhaps awake to TTATT?

Perhaps we should try the Jehovah's Trumpet approach and find something to say that is so out there but has the ring of truth about it. I would love to come out with something like "we have to take our ministry absolutely seriously. Can you imagine making indifferent calls on a street of people, then Armageddon coming the next day. As we walk around we see the dogs and the birds feasting on the flesh of those we had only given a casual witness to the day before. That might just take the edge off our joy of being saved so we have to give these ones a serious witness. The lives of 7 billion people are in our hands.".

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21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

by James Jack in

i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

konceptual99

Welcome!

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The Fear mongering of this weeks WT study!

by stuckinarut2 in

have you all read this weeks study article?.

oh my word it is full of fear inducing tactics....doom and gloom outlooks.... anxiety inducing methods to develop absolute control over witnesses and cripple them in any attempt to think for themselves!.

(notice i am saying "themselves" rather than "ourselves"?!

konceptual99

I was all ready to be subjected to the moronic answers in my hall when I found I could get round the block on our wifi that only allows you to go to jw.org. I tried using my public VPN service, VyprVPN, and found if I go through its proxy I can surf to my hearts content. I downloaded the latest New Scientist and read that instead.

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New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you

by suavojr in

jw
friends

new kindumb halls in a neighborhood near you.

notes and highlights from todays meeting.

opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the us branch together live from nyc..

konceptual99

Also, what is the big thing about not complaining and accepting the change? What is so controversial about the new structure that would encourage dissent?

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New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you

by suavojr in

jw
friends

new kindumb halls in a neighborhood near you.

notes and highlights from todays meeting.

opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the us branch together live from nyc..

konceptual99

Just so I am clear, do the society want to reduce the cost of a hall by 20% or to 20% of the current build cost? The latter is a massive ask.

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Counting service time in a creative way

by nevaagain in

jw
friends

couting time and, how to count time while doing as little service as possible is often a hot topic around witnesses.

i even overheard pioneers discussing about it.

they call it "creative time counting" (i translated that phrase from a different language so bear with me ;-).

konceptual99

I just make up a figure and put it down. That saves even having to do anything. To be fair I do turn up at one meeting for FS a month or so just to keep the elders off my back. I then do some "calls". At my house.

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The Opal Ring: a story based on the true life of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

it's finally finished!

it's a fictional story about an old jw.

it is very long, about 7000 words.. the opal ring.

konceptual99

Thanks for that. Did AM3 really wear an opal tie pin?

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The intcal13 dataset: The best evidence I know of for C14 dating.

by bohm in

carbon 14 dating is often dismissed as relying on the assumption the c14/c12 ratio in the past has been comparable to the present, however what is rarely acknowledged is this assumption can be checked.

the way the assumption is checked is by finding a system which admits dating independent of c14.

popular choices are dendrochronology, where tree-rings are counted and by matching variation in tree-ring width across trees it is possible to build a chronology stretching back 12000 years, or varvas, where yearly variations in sediment deposits in lakes admit chronologies to be build stretching back tens of thousands of years.

konceptual99

Bohm - even some very intelligent dubs I know are completely dismissive of c14 science. They could not care less about the verification processes. As you have pointed out the publications don't even address this side of things so many dubs have zero knowledge of it. I was the same when I was mentally in.

The fact that the WTS have hardly mentioned many aspects of science fir years such as C14, common ancestry and other areas where the current evidence is overwhelming says it all to me.

They want us to accept ever changing new light but not consider how far science has come in 30 years.

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Is Jehova's Trumpet for real?

by StarTrekAngel in

because regardless of having seen a lot of bad things, if true, some of the things i read there have reached new thresholds of bs.

who are these people?

i posted some comments there because i was sincerely confused as to the nature of their article.. http://jehovahstrumpet.com/brother-survives-nazi-persecution-disfellowshiped-for-smoking/.

konceptual99

JT is really the Brass Eye of the anti JW world.

Satire so ridiculous yet it could be true.

Love it.