That yadda yadda, is the irony of this situation.
konceptual99
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Brett King (Jehovah's Witness) Releases Video of why he removed his ill son, Ashya, from a UK hospital
by jwleaks in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14etqn9zpwk .
jw leaks.
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Please help....in a dilemma..
by crazyhorse inplease help with this: when i was in college, there was a lot of talk about university and how all who pursue that are wasting their time and all that.
even before going to uni, there was a lot of pressurr on me concerning my decision.
during that time, two elders sat with me for appointment as ms and asked me if i have freedom of speech in the org since i'm going to uni and i said no.
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konceptual99
Fade away. I wish I had seen the errors in the org before I got appointed.
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Brett King (Jehovah's Witness) Releases Video of why he removed his ill son, Ashya, from a UK hospital
by jwleaks in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14etqn9zpwk .
jw leaks.
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konceptual99
Quelly - I agree with you on many things and enjoy your posts but on this specific subject I disagree with you. I think the family's membership of the witnesses has very little to do with this and they are simply trying to do the best, as they see it, for their child. Without knowing the full details it's impossible to say if they are really playing Russian roulette with Ashya's life or not but I don't think it's right to simply write them off as deluded, brainwashed cult nutjobs. As a father I just hope that I am never in their situation.
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That 'Resurrection' video is cultish and scary but it couldn't actually harm anyone. Could it?
by nicolaou inmy wife and i spent last evening, as so many did, concerned for the king family and their little boy ashya (bbc report).
it's clear that blood is not an issue in their decision to take ashya away from hospital and the vital medical attention that he needs.
the watchtower office of public information also denied "that their decision is in any way motivated by any religious convictions".. hmmm.
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konceptual99
I've not asked the question directly but I am pretty sure the parents were not at Twickenham since they were basically at the hospital 24/7.
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Child with brain tumour taken from UK hospital by JW parents
by Fe2O3Girl inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28978655.
a five-year-old boy with a brain tumour has been taken without consent from hospital by his parents, sparking a major police hunt for the family.. ashya king was taken from southampton general hospital and is now believed to be in france with his parents and six siblings.. police said he needs constant medical care and there are "serious concerns" for his life if he is not found today.. brett king, 51, and naghemeh king, 45 removed him from the ward on thursday.. ashya's father was pictured taking him from the hospital"everyone is sending their love now.
we love you so much and we want to see you very soon and i love you so much and can't wait to see you.".
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konceptual99
Youtube update from his father....
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Child with brain tumour taken from UK hospital by JW parents
by Fe2O3Girl inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28978655.
a five-year-old boy with a brain tumour has been taken without consent from hospital by his parents, sparking a major police hunt for the family.. ashya king was taken from southampton general hospital and is now believed to be in france with his parents and six siblings.. police said he needs constant medical care and there are "serious concerns" for his life if he is not found today.. brett king, 51, and naghemeh king, 45 removed him from the ward on thursday.. ashya's father was pictured taking him from the hospital"everyone is sending their love now.
we love you so much and we want to see you very soon and i love you so much and can't wait to see you.".
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konceptual99
sowhatnow - it's not clear what the motivation is. My understanding from talking to someone who has been very close to the situation is that, to best of their knowledge, the child was not subject to a court order nor was blood a factor.
The parents' action is a a surprise to those in the congregation and their intentions are not known. The reports on the BBC reflect this. The police are keeping an open mind and there is nothing to suggest a direct link between the parents' being Witnesses and their actions.
The big concern now is that the child has a feeding system that requires batteries. They believe the batteries will have run out in the last hour. Without proper feeding his condition will deteriorate quickly. It may be that the parents can recharge the battery or have spares but this is not known.
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Child with brain tumour taken from UK hospital by JW parents
by Fe2O3Girl inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28978655.
a five-year-old boy with a brain tumour has been taken without consent from hospital by his parents, sparking a major police hunt for the family.. ashya king was taken from southampton general hospital and is now believed to be in france with his parents and six siblings.. police said he needs constant medical care and there are "serious concerns" for his life if he is not found today.. brett king, 51, and naghemeh king, 45 removed him from the ward on thursday.. ashya's father was pictured taking him from the hospital"everyone is sending their love now.
we love you so much and we want to see you very soon and i love you so much and can't wait to see you.".
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konceptual99
quelly - I completely understand your anger and on the face of it the parents action seems utterly wrong.
I don't know the parents (in fact this morning I didn't even know they were Witnesses) but I do know people that are in the same congregation in Portsmouth and have been very, very close to this situation. Having spoken to one of my friends, it is not at all clear why the parents have removed the boy from the care of the hospital but it is not a clear cut situation where all the facts have been made public. They are described as a very close and loving family but the situation with their son has put immense strain on the parents. I don't believe they are acting rationally and I also believe there are some factors associated with the boy's condition that may have triggered this action.
I just hope that the family can be found and the child and his parents can all get the support and care they need ASAP.
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Child with brain tumour taken from UK hospital by JW parents
by Fe2O3Girl inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28978655.
a five-year-old boy with a brain tumour has been taken without consent from hospital by his parents, sparking a major police hunt for the family.. ashya king was taken from southampton general hospital and is now believed to be in france with his parents and six siblings.. police said he needs constant medical care and there are "serious concerns" for his life if he is not found today.. brett king, 51, and naghemeh king, 45 removed him from the ward on thursday.. ashya's father was pictured taking him from the hospital"everyone is sending their love now.
we love you so much and we want to see you very soon and i love you so much and can't wait to see you.".
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konceptual99
I think you may be right AnnOMaly. The person I spoke with has been in daily face to face contact with the parents and family through the entire ordeal, visiting at the hospital, caring for the siblings etc. It seems this action was a total surprise and completely unexpected. The parents are under immense strain and whilst it is easy to look at the situation from afar and wonder what the hell they are doing, it simply seems the overwhelming stress of the situation is clouding their judgement.
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Parents remove child from hospital fearing blood transfusion?
by Randomthoughts inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28978655.
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konceptual99
So... from knowing nothing about this I have spoken to someone I know in the congregation where this family is in Portsmouth.
Apparently the poor child has been sick for a while and the congregation has been providing alot of support. It's a large family and the mother has been pretty much 24/7 at the hospital and the dad has been there everyday as well. The congregation have been supporting the family and taking care of the other kids, providing food, going to the hospital etc.
From what I understand, there is no court order and blood is not the issue. The poor boy had a major brain operation and he has not been able to recognise anyone or communicate in anyway since. The prognosis is poor. Regarding the reason for taking the child, even those who have beein in daily contact do not know. No one knows where they are heading or why. The phrase used was "the parents are distraught and desperate". Everyone close to the situation wants the parents to return.
There is clearly much more that will come to light but it does seem that this is a unilateral decision on the part of "distraught and desperate" parents. The priority is the child but my sympathy goes beyond the poor. sick child and to his parents and siblings. It is truly a sad and desperate situation.
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Parents remove child from hospital fearing blood transfusion?
by Randomthoughts inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28978655.
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konceptual99
BBC Radio have a read a statement from (presumably) Bethel confirming the family are witnesses but that they are not aware of the reasons for the child being removed from hospital.
The BBC were also at pains to say that, at the moment, the motivation is not clear - it could just be they want to take the child away for a holiday. Even the police were not able to confirm if the child was a Ward of Court. If not then what the parents choose to do is still their right and no crime has been committed.