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  Powell admits Iraq evidence mistake

  by Simon in

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  the truth always comes out eventually.

  i hate to say "i told you so" but all those who were extremely critical of those who questioned the 'evidence' do, i think, need to re-evaluate the faith they put in the powers that be and perhaps owe some people an apology.

  remember?

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  I think he imagined that the US military is better than it actually is. This has shown that it isn't. I think if anything it will have shown other rogue states that DO have an intact military that the US is not the massive power it imagines itself to be.

  You have GOT to be kidding! That's actually one of the big headaches the President had, that the US Army ran over the Iraqi army too fast. What took months and weeks a decade ago, now took a matter of days. Even if you want to look at it from a "cold, numbers" point of view, loosing 500 people over a one year period in a war is probably acceptable. What people forget is that the US army is occupying a country of some 40 million people. Hell, last year a 1,000 people were murdered in the city of Chicago. A city with a population of only 3 million.

  One thing I will agree with is that the US army is not designed to occupy and police a country. This, to me, was Bush's biggest mistake. He had two options. One, cut loose the dogs of war, take out Saddam and his army and then leave or two, take out Saddam and his army then turn over the reconstructing process to the UN.

  This "nation rebuilding" process is going to be tough. But he's got us in there now and if he cuts loose the people of Iraq before the job is done (like his daddy did) they'll be hell to pay.
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  Here's a good one for ya!

  by Tinkerbell4125 in

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  as most of you know, cc and i moved here, two hours away from my home town so we wouldn't have to run into j.w.

  family.

  i've been walking in the neighborhood, been trying to lose weight.

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  and they claim NT to be a cult! yeah, right
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  Do You Study the Bible With Your Kids?

  by roybatty in

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  when we were jws, studying with our kids, pumping their little minds with the wt's teaching was a top priority.

  i remember studying the wt with them, then the biblereading, then the bookstudy, the the great teacher book,etc.

  it seemed like it never ended.

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  When we were JWs, studying with our kids, pumping their little minds with the WT's teaching was a top priority. I remember studying the WT with them, then the biblereading, then the bookstudy, the the Great Teacher book,etc. It seemed like it never ended. Anyway, at dinner time I try and read something from this booklet called "The Upper Room." It's about the size of the Daily Text booklet and has the same basic idea but what's better is that it's a collection of experience from readers. Nothing heavy. Some of them are actually pretty good.

  I still think that there is some benefit with spending a few minutes reading something along these lines with the kids. So the other night I make them turn off the tv, sit down and eat dinner. I open up the booklet (insert *groan* from the kids) and I start reading this text. It's from Psalms and it's about being thankful. The experience is about this poor college student who has nothing but then remembers his relationship God and this gives him something to be thankful for. (While I'm reading this I'm thinking "he's probably thankful for the beer money God gave him"). lol. Anyway, I want to have a discussion with the kids about being thankful so I tell them "we're now going to say what we're thankful for. I'm thankful that I have two great kids. What are you two thankful for?" My son says "I'm thankful that I'm not ugly like my sister" and my daughter says "I'm thankful that I'm not an idiot like my brother." I just roll my eyes back and say "go and turn the tv on." lol

  I'm just wondering what others do along these lines. I want my kids to have knowledge of the Bible but I dreed the routine we had as JW's.
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  13-year old son going to partake tonight

  by roybatty in

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  my 13-year old son is with his jw mom this weekend but he just popped by to grab his baseball mit and to tell me (lol) that since his mom is making him go to the memorial tonight, he's going to eat the bread.

  he's a great kid but he has no sense of fear.

  i didn't know if i should laugh or tell him not to.

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  Sorry, not trying to lecture...just bummed about my brother...

  Thanks for the kind words blacksheep and billygoat (and eveyone else).

  I didn't take it as a lecture at all. I always appreciate advice from others about raising kids. I can't say that I'll always agree but it never hurts to listen. He is a strong minded boy. I don't want to break him from that but I also want him to realize that it's one thing to be strong minded and another being close minded.

  I'm sorry to hear about your brother. It is disappointing when I look back on my relationship with my father. Time goes by so fast and and the things he missed. Didn't make it to any of my games, missed graduation, rarely had time to see his grandkids. Not a bad man, just messed up priorities. It makes me sad. Later in life (just a few years ago) I made it a point to get closer to him. His father was killed in WWII before he was born so I don't think he ever realized how to be a dad. Anyway, him and I along with my son started new traditions. We'd go to the state high school football championships every year, we'd fish together etc. Sadly, just as we started getting close he was killed in an automobile accident. What I regret the most is never having a memory of saying "I love you dad" or hearing "I love you son." Tears me up inside just thinking about it. I think him and I had too much of that macho shit in our vains. Good thing is, my son (and daughter) don't that same wall. Not a day goes by that we don't give each other a hug and say "I love you." What amazes me is that my 13 year old son will do this no matter who's around, even his friends.

  When I think about my JW brother and sister and their kids, it saddens my heart. You're right about the cult thing. The JW religion builds walls between family members because this WT "thing" comes before all else. All the things their kids will miss out on, never having the chance to go back and re-do those missed things. They'll never experience their kids birthday party, or seeing them open their first Christmas present. Since JWs don't go to dances, he'll miss bring his daughter(s) to the father/daughter dance. I took my daughter last week to her first one (a 50's theme dance). Jeez, we had a blast. During the last song with my 10 year old daughter, I almost cried. Here we are during the final dance, a slow one, and I'm looking at her thinking "in a few short years she'll be dancing with here new husband at her wedding and I'll no longer be the main man in her life." Choked me up!

  Ok, enough sappy stuff! I'm going to go drink a beer and watch basketball or something! lol
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  13-year old son going to partake tonight

  by roybatty in

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  my 13-year old son is with his jw mom this weekend but he just popped by to grab his baseball mit and to tell me (lol) that since his mom is making him go to the memorial tonight, he's going to eat the bread.

  he's a great kid but he has no sense of fear.

  i didn't know if i should laugh or tell him not to.

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  Ah, looks like he didn't do. Evidently his mom, like most moms, knew he was up to something and gave him "the look." lol. Oh well. There's always next year.
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  Have You Ever Heard This Explanation Why 144,000 is a Literal Number?

  by Had Enough in

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  the speaker said tonight (yes i went to the memorial to appease my worried family .

  well he said its very simple....the scripture talks about the lamb and the 144,000. it doesn't say lambs as in more than one....no, it says lamb referring to the "literal number of one lamb".. so thats how we know that the 144,000 is a literal number and not symbolic like all the rest of revelation.. ok....now am i going bonkers...or has anyone else every heard that explanation before?

  i know i never have and that doesn't make any sense to me at all.. had enough

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  The "typical" WT party line is that since the "great crowd" that John sees isn't numered meaning it is a huge amount of people, whereas the "little flock" or "anointed" are referred to with a specific number, that this means the 144,000 has to be a literal number.

  As already noted, the question come up "um...but isn't just about everything in that chapter symbolic? so EVERYTHING else is symbolic BUT the 144,000 number?" lol
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  13-year old son going to partake tonight

  by roybatty in

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  my 13-year old son is with his jw mom this weekend but he just popped by to grab his baseball mit and to tell me (lol) that since his mom is making him go to the memorial tonight, he's going to eat the bread.

  he's a great kid but he has no sense of fear.

  i didn't know if i should laugh or tell him not to.

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  If your son is sincere about taking the bread for what it actually represents, and he can withstand the aftermath, I would encourage him to do it.

  If he is doing it just to piss his mom off, then I would not let him do it.

  Actually, neither. He knows how absurd the whole JW religion is. The hypocracy, lies and "false righteousness." He's seen childhood JW "friends" no longer associate with him because he's chosen a differnt set of beliefs. He's seen the shunning of me out in public and (unfortuntely) the double-standards of his JW mom. Anyway, I think it's two thiings. One, he's just being a mischevious 13 year old and two, he's showing those at the Hall that their whole system is a bunch of BS. Jeez, that kids sometimes, he does march to the beat of his own drum.
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  Powell admits Iraq evidence mistake

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  the truth always comes out eventually.

  i hate to say "i told you so" but all those who were extremely critical of those who questioned the 'evidence' do, i think, need to re-evaluate the faith they put in the powers that be and perhaps owe some people an apology.

  remember?

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  Few buildings? Check out the link below. Those, poor Iraqis and then mean U.S. Army.

  http://www.centcom.mil/galleries/galleries.asp
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  Powell admits Iraq evidence mistake

  by Simon in

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  2. current

  the truth always comes out eventually.

  i hate to say "i told you so" but all those who were extremely critical of those who questioned the 'evidence' do, i think, need to re-evaluate the faith they put in the powers that be and perhaps owe some people an apology.

  remember?

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  Actually, the Iraqi's did rise up against him. Unfortunately, the US administration of the day (led by Bush snr) destroyed the arms dumps that they needed to successfully oust Saddam, thus condemning them to death at his hands. I guess Saddam was better kept in place because it provided a reason to be there.

  Ah, yes, the famous Kurdish uprising. Again, I must have missed the support around the world for these people and the protests when Saddam gassed these people. And, yes, shame on Bush Sr. for abandoning these people. Glad his son is finishing the job, unlike his father.
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  US fingerprints 'allied' visitors

  by Simon in

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  how to win friends and influence people?

  as if us customs weren't unpleasant enough already ... now they will make everyone feel like a criminal.

  i hope we follow the lead of brazil and do the same to all us visitors coming over here.. your country is turning into a police state.

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  You know I was kind of suprised at how lax the security was when I entered England.

  Was the same when the kids and I left Mexico a few weeks ago. No x-ray machines. They hand checked all the luggage going onto the plane. They couldn't get my son's luggage open because the zipper broke, so they just sent it through. Made me feel really safe!

  I heard starting next week the federal government will require all female passengers on flights leaving Texas to board wearing only two piece bathing suits. God bless the Homeland Security Agency!