Posts by TheWonderofYou

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Will Child Abuse Issue Keep Growing Like A Forest Fire?

by OnTheWayOut in

i don't know if a commercial will come up and i can't find this on youtube as it is probably copyright material or i am just not in a good search pattern today.

anyway, try to view this if you haven't seen it:.

https://rutube.ru/video/0ba7a3ee7e89dbbc730c4af32032e33b/?ref=logo .

TheWonderofYou

Humor:

All victims are warmely and heartedly invited to apply for therapy at our cost. They will receive a special therapy and a long vacation togheter with their parents at the cost of the Body in the new Recovery works.

So the Body shows how much he loves the victims in the midst of our congreagtion. The warm atmosphere on this tropical island and brotherly love of the recovery team will help the victims to come back to health.

The team will consist of professional educated sisters and former victims, this will be the right upbuilding atmosphere on voluntary basis but payed by the society. This will be relaxing place on a beautiful island in the south pacific, near australia.

The Body will come up for all expenses of course.

After return to the home congregation the abuser will not be there anymore. We cannot force a victim to be in the same congregation as the abuser. The abusers will visit the new established "abusers concentration congregation camp ACCC".

The Body shall be obliged to further come up for 10 years of living costs and therapy of each victim.

We dont wanna hear that investments that have been financed with our hard work and hard safed money are sold.

Therefore we want that the Body wisely thinks about how to let the money and investments work for the victims that are further working in the kingdom preaching work and thus worth to get every cent and effort.

If the Body should ask the members to pay yet more money into the kingdom works, 15 % of each cent shall go to the new established kingdom recovery works for abuse cases.

The more we pay in the better will the help they get. Optional suitable guidance will be presented in printed form too, the congregation will receive written info soon about the new donation scheme.

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Will Child Abuse Issue Keep Growing Like A Forest Fire?

by OnTheWayOut in

i don't know if a commercial will come up and i can't find this on youtube as it is probably copyright material or i am just not in a good search pattern today.

anyway, try to view this if you haven't seen it:.

https://rutube.ru/video/0ba7a3ee7e89dbbc730c4af32032e33b/?ref=logo .

TheWonderofYou

A special convention "We apologize" shall be already planned now.
The Body shall publicy apologize for the happenings like the Pope did, which will be broadcasted on the own TV-channel to reach the whole world with the Bodys' apologize before their brothers and sister worldwide.

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Will Child Abuse Issue Keep Growing Like A Forest Fire?

by OnTheWayOut in

i don't know if a commercial will come up and i can't find this on youtube as it is probably copyright material or i am just not in a good search pattern today.

anyway, try to view this if you haven't seen it:.

https://rutube.ru/video/0ba7a3ee7e89dbbc730c4af32032e33b/?ref=logo .

TheWonderofYou

Humor and belief in the Holy spirit is the only solution for me to cope with that terrific handling of abuse cases within Gods organisation.

Here is another proposal about handling abuse cases for the clever Body to consider.

All victims receive help

All 1006 victims in Austrialia and all registered e.g. filed victims worldwide (inclusive the filed cases in US - lower than 23720 in any case as WT reported to BBC) will receive adequate help. The body shall already wisely rededicate a major insurance policy for these abuse cases, so instead for paying in for the risk of stormlosses at our muliplse headquarter we now can use the money better for our beloved abuse victims.

Those victims who were afraid reporting abuse until now because of fear of excommunication like little sheep or lambs are now warmly invited to do it and to register the case at the state commission or at the police instantly.

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Will Child Abuse Issue Keep Growing Like A Forest Fire?

by OnTheWayOut in

i don't know if a commercial will come up and i can't find this on youtube as it is probably copyright material or i am just not in a good search pattern today.

anyway, try to view this if you haven't seen it:.

https://rutube.ru/video/0ba7a3ee7e89dbbc730c4af32032e33b/?ref=logo .

TheWonderofYou

Why are there no public commissions in other countries?

To few victims that stood up, but in US. there are many hmm. US system is more about paying compensations than child welfare? UK? Where is the child welfare?

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Will Child Abuse Issue Keep Growing Like A Forest Fire?

by OnTheWayOut in

i don't know if a commercial will come up and i can't find this on youtube as it is probably copyright material or i am just not in a good search pattern today.

anyway, try to view this if you haven't seen it:.

https://rutube.ru/video/0ba7a3ee7e89dbbc730c4af32032e33b/?ref=logo .

TheWonderofYou

Why should a former child abuser ever be installed as "bible teacher" (or publisher) who goes from house to house. He should be allowed only to be a "follower" but not a "teacher" never again.

Another idea would be to create special therapy centers for JW abusers, where they can go to the assemblies and preach to each other, but not from house to house or remaing in the same congregation.

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Extrapolation of the Australia child abuse numbers

by sir82 in

(let me know if anyone thinks my assumptions are way out of line, or if i've forgotten anything).

basic facts:.

the australian royal commission has 1000+ documented cases of child abuse over 65 years.

TheWonderofYou

Arent they even preaching in jails to criminals, arent there even congregation in jails, as lately shown on BORG TV. What after the criminal comes into a normal congregation, will it be mentioned that this bro was a criminal former?

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How much was Christ's ransom sacrifice? Equal to Adam?

by jonathan dough in

how much was the ransom?

gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.

gods gift required more.

TheWonderofYou

@calebinfloroda

another point is that the jewish had the tradition of a suffering messiah:

- a man of sorrow (gods people or the one messiah?) the suffering servant of god

- the suffering messiah and the victorious messiah

- the son of man

and obviously in the time of Jesus it was thought, or perhaps like in quumran, or like john baptist that a single man, messiah, would suffer, perhaps it was a normal allday-thought in the synagoges of that time? And Jesus believed in it that he was the one, at the lord supper he said: My blood for many, was that a later insertion into the bible text, or was it part of the liturgy of 1st century?

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How much was Christ's ransom sacrifice? Equal to Adam?

by jonathan dough in

how much was the ransom?

gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.

gods gift required more.

TheWonderofYou

@calebinfloroda

I remember that the term "ransom" had the meaning to ransom someone of something,
it was obviously use by first christians that jesus ransomed people of slavery of the sin or effects of the sin, but not explicit and only an adamic heritated sin. (should be discussed if already the early judaism knew a heritade sin or when the thought appeared)

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Basic Bible and Religious Vocabulary the Watchtower Never Teaches

by CalebInFloroda in

when i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.

i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.

i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.

TheWonderofYou

@CalebInFloroda,

thank you for everything. Very interesting.

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How much was Christ's ransom sacrifice? Equal to Adam?

by jonathan dough in

how much was the ransom?

gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.

gods gift required more.

TheWonderofYou

The letter to the Hebrews shows that the act of divine love was the true atonement of the world. Thus ...no legally ransom nor corresponding ransom necessary. Nor for Adam nor for Adam+mankind. Necessary is love. Jesus death is not equal to Adam, but his love brings much more blessings than a legal understanding of scale like justice.