Posts by TheWonderofYou

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U.N. United Nations Human Rights Committee and Jehovahs Witnesses have ongoing relationship

by TheWonderofYou in

i appreciate the work of the u.n.. jw appreciate and share the values of the u.n. too.. jw-attorneys submit country reports to the human rights committee.

next session of the hrc will be from 9 october - 6 november 2015 in geneve, switzerland.. human rights committee .

http://www.ohchr.org/en/hrbodies/ccpr/pages/ccprindex.aspx.

TheWonderofYou

We could ask for establishment of a Human rights Commission who would engage in this problem and who could prepare the legal frame.

BTW I am alread trying to prepare a sample letter to the U.N. ,

sombody could write it in better english then.

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U.N. United Nations Human Rights Committee and Jehovahs Witnesses have ongoing relationship

by TheWonderofYou in

i appreciate the work of the u.n.. jw appreciate and share the values of the u.n. too.. jw-attorneys submit country reports to the human rights committee.

next session of the hrc will be from 9 october - 6 november 2015 in geneve, switzerland.. human rights committee .

http://www.ohchr.org/en/hrbodies/ccpr/pages/ccprindex.aspx.

TheWonderofYou

Human Rights Day 2015, December 10
at Google

https://www.google.at/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1FGGD_deAT573AT573&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=human%20rights%20day%202015

Last statement of High commissioner for Human rights

http://www.un.org/en/events/humanrightsday/2014/statements.shtml

His Excellence High Commissioner for Human rights Prince Zeid bin Ra'ad, a muslim, under his auspices are the submissions of JWs too and the Human Rights Committee and the Human rights council.

http://www.un.org/sg/management/senstaff_details.asp?smgID=186

TOP NEWS of the High commissioner (responsible also for all JW submissions)

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/Media.aspx

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Office of the High commissioner for Human rights.

General Inquiries:
Telephone: +41 22 917 9220
E-mail: [email protected]

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We could generelly ask for contact persons in the Human Rights committee in our matters,, might be human rights attorneys or might be human rigth organisations who have already experience, so that our problem could be addressed sharply at the goal: human right violations within minor religions.

I think it should not be directed against a special religion, but described as general problems in minor religions which confine themselve. Because minor religions are protected under the Declaration of Human Rights!

We could only propose an addition legal procedure to supervise the cult-internal processes and disciplinationsmethods for harmful actions (as well as the treatment of former members by members of minor religions), which could be implemented as review process. Only a thought. Think of suppression of women too in many religions.

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U.N. United Nations Human Rights Committee and Jehovahs Witnesses have ongoing relationship

by TheWonderofYou in

i appreciate the work of the u.n.. jw appreciate and share the values of the u.n. too.. jw-attorneys submit country reports to the human rights committee.

next session of the hrc will be from 9 october - 6 november 2015 in geneve, switzerland.. human rights committee .

http://www.ohchr.org/en/hrbodies/ccpr/pages/ccprindex.aspx.

TheWonderofYou

The Universal Human Rights Index

shows you all the Human rights.

http://uhri.ohchr.org/search/annotations

Goto advanced search and filter for the Rights!

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U.N. United Nations Human Rights Committee and Jehovahs Witnesses have ongoing relationship

by TheWonderofYou in

i appreciate the work of the u.n.. jw appreciate and share the values of the u.n. too.. jw-attorneys submit country reports to the human rights committee.

next session of the hrc will be from 9 october - 6 november 2015 in geneve, switzerland.. human rights committee .

http://www.ohchr.org/en/hrbodies/ccpr/pages/ccprindex.aspx.

TheWonderofYou

Googled "Human Rights Committee" + "jworg" and found dozens of JWorg kudos too U.N. Human Rights committee.

https://www.google.at/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1FGGD_deAT573AT573&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=human%20rights%20committee%20jworg

WT was never a "member" of U.N. (only states can be " member" states!)
WT was what now is called "DPI-NGO"
Not the WT NY. but the European sister is as Civil society organisation now appealing to and submitting reports to the U.N. Human Rights Committee, resutling to the above achievments.

Does not JW by appealing to the Human rights committee implicitly agree to the U.N. charta and the UN International Declaration of Human Rights ?? To the same U.N. charta that was the reason to disassociate the WT as DPI-NGO. Is this open and public cooperation with U.N. and OSCE not more implicitly agreement to the U.N.O. than was ever a library card in New York, that was in the possession of the WTBTS N.Y?

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DPI NGO:

http://outreach.un.org/ngorelations/

latest application form:
http://outreach.un.org/ngorelations/files/2012/06/Association-Application-Form-2012-fq.v2.pdf

latest membership criteria as DPI-NGO. (not necessary to be ESOCOC member at all, "with either of the two branches DPI or ESOCOC")

http://outreach.un.org/ngorelations/membership/

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Is disfellowshipping a loving arrangement?

by mana11 in

i read this post, i voted and the ones saying it is a loving arrangement is over 68%, i am mind blown - what fool can think it is a loving arrangement.

lets teach them that is it not thought of as loving...your chance to let these people know if dis-fellowshipping is a loving arrangement!..

http://www.jehovahs-witness.org/is-disfellowshipping-a-loving-arrangement/.

TheWonderofYou

From the human rights standpoint,

70 % believe in the loving arrangement, its their freedom of thought to believe that such a doctrine is okay for them and christian , we will not condemn them,

30 % dont believe they are weak, they disagree with the slave anonymously. They have the freedom to speak with the elders, to be silent and not mention their doubts publicly cause avoiding turmoil is most important, they are marked as problematic doubters. No freedom of speech and suppressed thoughts.

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Freedom to choose a religion. If they the 30% should decide to leave the jw religion, we dont hold them back, they can believe what they want, but can write in forums, they have all freedom, we are tolerant, we dont hold them back, if they stay they shall accept the loving arrangement, which are: In case they speak load and protest within the congregation and mislead others, we would excommunicate them . But If they keep silent about their doubts we will allow them to silently dissassote themselves.

We dont shun the 30 % if they would leave us at all,

And we dont judge their decision.

The 30 % do what they want, they must not believe in the loving arrangement doctrine, we are tolerant.

Internal reaction and consequence of excommunication

We wont greet them, we label em evil, we call em spiritual diseased, dont invite them, we dont call them only to get them back under our regime, we break up a friendship. We dont spoil our time with apostates who are awaiting the worst judgement and mislead us or steal our time.

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Effect on youths of Bethel and construction cuts

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

i know quite a few youths (late teens to early twenties) who have the goal of full time service, as bethelites or international construction, so they're doing the required slog of pioneering in order to achieve this goal.

this is a goal which has been excitedly set out for them the last few years or so at assemblies etc.

now they see the cuts, surely they are going to be discouraged and disillusioned.

TheWonderofYou

A worldly carrier is more secure and attractive, at least to learn a profession with higher education that could be useful in the new changed organisation.

The new conditions we live are a call for high educated

lawyers, digital experts, network technicians, marketing experts, translators, actors for the video dramas, but please better professionals.

The bethel family is more and more changing in a

commanders and propaganda central Head quarter, loosing the mixture of a family atmosphere and spiritual ity

Only professionals of teaching propaganda technology, digial media and legal commanders remain in bethel.

Has anybody ever heard that a catolic order with owe of poverty sent home its monks or nuns? What a shame such an order is. If you join an order its normally a lifetime decision.

Leaders have a responsibility for the members wwho trusted in the order promise

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Hey Simon

by ShirleyW in

jw
friends

i'm noticing that when i open quite a few of the posts here i notice that the end of the sentences on some lines are breaking improperly.

like for the word paragraph, it's broken up with the "aph" on the next line for an example.

it's happening a lot i'm seeing it just about in every post i open, is it just my view and my computer?.

TheWonderofYou

As for me, i havent yet understood how to make beautiful cutted paragraphs, but i believe in chrome, and hasnt jah merciful been withus and gifted us wih our wonderful internet forum community? A platform that is an imagination of the new world, In any case, shouldnt we be thankful to him too and simon as his steward

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Mass disassociation pact...

by freemindfade in

any takers?

we can pick a date and pull the plug?

lol .

TheWonderofYou

Accompanied by an aid funds for victims or layoffs what do you think?

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JWs are getting worried about the lay-offs in the ORG.

by DATA-DOG in

i'm upstairs, eavesdropping on a conversation between an eldubs wife and my wife.

they are hoping for "clarification" on everything that's going on with the construction scene.

so, rest assured, dubs are talking.

TheWonderofYou

I listened to an interview with a professor of economics of institut working with NGOS, CSOS, charities.

The main similarities between profit organisation and charities are

A distinct goal

Efficiency

Liquidity, liquid funds

A professional Management

People would not want their money get mismanaged, so they fund those charity which they trust, professionality is not a hindrance, fund raising management or costs for marketing are a part of professional stability assurance

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Can the special pioneers, bethelites, and many other "servants", who are getting their benefits stripped, SUE THE WTBS?

by Dunedain in

i know in america, corporations, and businesses, are many times obligated to atleast continue certain medical benefits for an extended period of time, like a year or two, even after they are "let go".

i wonder how many older, special pioneers, missionarys, bethelites, and such, have pre-existing medical conditions, and need to have to continue their benefits for care?.

the wts, can send a letter saying " sorry your shits gone in 3 months", but is this really legal?

TheWonderofYou

Does this mean that only people of the ORDER are reduce inexpensive with no legal problems, whereas the 500 fulltimeservants that are members of the legal entity or entities wtbts Pennsylvania or N.Y., are not touched because they could sue their company legally?

If so thry could applause at the annual meeting and rejoice that they are yet in. And they could vote for themselves as independent entity but not for the GB what is not allowed, but gratulate the GB for its wise decision and reducing costs, and that the wtbts Pennsylvania is not touched only the other entities