Posts by TheWonderofYou

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U.N. United Nations Human Rights Committee and Jehovahs Witnesses have ongoing relationship

by TheWonderofYou in

i appreciate the work of the u.n.. jw appreciate and share the values of the u.n. too.. jw-attorneys submit country reports to the human rights committee.

next session of the hrc will be from 9 october - 6 november 2015 in geneve, switzerland.. human rights committee .

http://www.ohchr.org/en/hrbodies/ccpr/pages/ccprindex.aspx.

TheWonderofYou

Googled "Human Rights Committee" + "jworg" and found dozens of JWorg kudos too U.N. Human Rights committee.

https://www.google.at/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1FGGD_deAT573AT573&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=human%20rights%20committee%20jworg

WT was never a "member" of U.N. (only states can be " member" states!)
WT was what now is called "DPI-NGO"
Not the WT NY. but the European sister is as Civil society organisation now appealing to and submitting reports to the U.N. Human Rights Committee, resutling to the above achievments.

Does not JW by appealing to the Human rights committee implicitly agree to the U.N. charta and the UN International Declaration of Human Rights ?? To the same U.N. charta that was the reason to disassociate the WT as DPI-NGO. Is this open and public cooperation with U.N. and OSCE not more implicitly agreement to the U.N.O. than was ever a library card in New York, that was in the possession of the WTBTS N.Y?

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DPI NGO:

http://outreach.un.org/ngorelations/

latest application form:
http://outreach.un.org/ngorelations/files/2012/06/Association-Application-Form-2012-fq.v2.pdf

latest membership criteria as DPI-NGO. (not necessary to be ESOCOC member at all, "with either of the two branches DPI or ESOCOC")

http://outreach.un.org/ngorelations/membership/

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Is disfellowshipping a loving arrangement?

by mana11 in

i read this post, i voted and the ones saying it is a loving arrangement is over 68%, i am mind blown - what fool can think it is a loving arrangement.

lets teach them that is it not thought of as loving...your chance to let these people know if dis-fellowshipping is a loving arrangement!..

http://www.jehovahs-witness.org/is-disfellowshipping-a-loving-arrangement/.

TheWonderofYou

From the human rights standpoint,

70 % believe in the loving arrangement, its their freedom of thought to believe that such a doctrine is okay for them and christian , we will not condemn them,

30 % dont believe they are weak, they disagree with the slave anonymously. They have the freedom to speak with the elders, to be silent and not mention their doubts publicly cause avoiding turmoil is most important, they are marked as problematic doubters. No freedom of speech and suppressed thoughts.

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Freedom to choose a religion. If they the 30% should decide to leave the jw religion, we dont hold them back, they can believe what they want, but can write in forums, they have all freedom, we are tolerant, we dont hold them back, if they stay they shall accept the loving arrangement, which are: In case they speak load and protest within the congregation and mislead others, we would excommunicate them . But If they keep silent about their doubts we will allow them to silently dissassote themselves.

We dont shun the 30 % if they would leave us at all,

And we dont judge their decision.

The 30 % do what they want, they must not believe in the loving arrangement doctrine, we are tolerant.

Internal reaction and consequence of excommunication

We wont greet them, we label em evil, we call em spiritual diseased, dont invite them, we dont call them only to get them back under our regime, we break up a friendship. We dont spoil our time with apostates who are awaiting the worst judgement and mislead us or steal our time.

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Effect on youths of Bethel and construction cuts

by Tornintwo in

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i know quite a few youths (late teens to early twenties) who have the goal of full time service, as bethelites or international construction, so they're doing the required slog of pioneering in order to achieve this goal.

this is a goal which has been excitedly set out for them the last few years or so at assemblies etc.

now they see the cuts, surely they are going to be discouraged and disillusioned.

TheWonderofYou

A worldly carrier is more secure and attractive, at least to learn a profession with higher education that could be useful in the new changed organisation.

The new conditions we live are a call for high educated

lawyers, digital experts, network technicians, marketing experts, translators, actors for the video dramas, but please better professionals.

The bethel family is more and more changing in a

commanders and propaganda central Head quarter, loosing the mixture of a family atmosphere and spiritual ity

Only professionals of teaching propaganda technology, digial media and legal commanders remain in bethel.

Has anybody ever heard that a catolic order with owe of poverty sent home its monks or nuns? What a shame such an order is. If you join an order its normally a lifetime decision.

Leaders have a responsibility for the members wwho trusted in the order promise

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Hey Simon

by ShirleyW in

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friends

i'm noticing that when i open quite a few of the posts here i notice that the end of the sentences on some lines are breaking improperly.

like for the word paragraph, it's broken up with the "aph" on the next line for an example.

it's happening a lot i'm seeing it just about in every post i open, is it just my view and my computer?.

TheWonderofYou

As for me, i havent yet understood how to make beautiful cutted paragraphs, but i believe in chrome, and hasnt jah merciful been withus and gifted us wih our wonderful internet forum community? A platform that is an imagination of the new world, In any case, shouldnt we be thankful to him too and simon as his steward

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Mass disassociation pact...

by freemindfade in

any takers?

we can pick a date and pull the plug?

lol .

TheWonderofYou

Accompanied by an aid funds for victims or layoffs what do you think?

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JWs are getting worried about the lay-offs in the ORG.

by DATA-DOG in

i'm upstairs, eavesdropping on a conversation between an eldubs wife and my wife.

they are hoping for "clarification" on everything that's going on with the construction scene.

so, rest assured, dubs are talking.

TheWonderofYou

I listened to an interview with a professor of economics of institut working with NGOS, CSOS, charities.

The main similarities between profit organisation and charities are

A distinct goal

Efficiency

Liquidity, liquid funds

A professional Management

People would not want their money get mismanaged, so they fund those charity which they trust, professionality is not a hindrance, fund raising management or costs for marketing are a part of professional stability assurance

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Can the special pioneers, bethelites, and many other "servants", who are getting their benefits stripped, SUE THE WTBS?

by Dunedain in

i know in america, corporations, and businesses, are many times obligated to atleast continue certain medical benefits for an extended period of time, like a year or two, even after they are "let go".

i wonder how many older, special pioneers, missionarys, bethelites, and such, have pre-existing medical conditions, and need to have to continue their benefits for care?.

the wts, can send a letter saying " sorry your shits gone in 3 months", but is this really legal?

TheWonderofYou

Does this mean that only people of the ORDER are reduce inexpensive with no legal problems, whereas the 500 fulltimeservants that are members of the legal entity or entities wtbts Pennsylvania or N.Y., are not touched because they could sue their company legally?

If so thry could applause at the annual meeting and rejoice that they are yet in. And they could vote for themselves as independent entity but not for the GB what is not allowed, but gratulate the GB for its wise decision and reducing costs, and that the wtbts Pennsylvania is not touched only the other entities

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2015 Annual meeting program

by rege brazzy in

it will include.

indeed ,the reading and explantaion of the releases and adjustements in september 21, 2015 letter.. -reports from selected countries in the field (the world).

-some highlights from past service year(2015).

TheWonderofYou

It could be a good occasion to a new understanding of the "DARKENED WORLD". The biblical related teachings that Satan is the lord of the all kingdoms of the WORLD, and that even more after thrown out of heaven unto earth .

I assume they will say that the term WORLD is a picture for the general evil and the rebellous mind against god in the hearts of people, but thereis not a literal "Satans world Organisation" that is connectable to certain worldpowers or kingdoms or religion, its symolic prophecy.

The world is now darkened because gods name is not any more in the mind of the most.

The governments, worldempires are reigning of gods grace, in the bible daniel used the worldpower symbolically.

Working together with governors and UN. for security freedom of religion and human rights does not mean whorshipping the beast.we respect the efforts of all government.

Even the wild beast has a good side, in it is good and evil as i any government and in any man. Its a symbol of the eternal fight against evil in the world, and own unresponsibility.

Our fight is not against against any literal government or the UN but against the symolic rebellious behaviour for which the Daniels worldpower and in the story of jesus seduction by satan offering him all kingdoms, are symbols.

So a new understanding of daniels statue as symbolic, as well as Satan possessing all kindoms, satans organisation and the term "world" as symbolic. Dont be afraid God is always king.

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Printing Company to Video Production Company - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

many people think that wt is a publishing company and at one time that was true.

however, they are slowly fading that out into more digital publications.

we all have come to the conclusion that printed material from the wt is going way of the dinosaur.

TheWonderofYou

If you consider the JW in house know-how in printing techniques and JW specific know how to establish a printing press without external aid on a new spot as was lately in a JW commercial shown, and of the book presentation at book fairs like in Brazil, the necessity for teaching books to make notices or in braille, or the own bible, that they should be capable to print of their own at least...the so I would assume that the book branch would not be given up totally, but perhaps optimised.

In regards to the video and digital new world think of the new video complex in south africa that is being built now or even ready or video production units in other countries and the "in site " translation departments of the videos in hundreds of languages.

So i think that the both print and digital will remain yet decades

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U.N. United Nations Human Rights Committee and Jehovahs Witnesses have ongoing relationship

by TheWonderofYou in

i appreciate the work of the u.n.. jw appreciate and share the values of the u.n. too.. jw-attorneys submit country reports to the human rights committee.

next session of the hrc will be from 9 october - 6 november 2015 in geneve, switzerland.. human rights committee .

http://www.ohchr.org/en/hrbodies/ccpr/pages/ccprindex.aspx.

TheWonderofYou

Before we look at the process some basics if you like some basic education:

Although the list below mentiones many other United Nation Bodies and entities involved in human rights... http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/Pages/OtherUnitedNationsBodies.aspx

for our purpose I am concentrationg on the The Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR). Under the auspices of this Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights you will find all Human Right Bodies, charter-based and treaty-based.

"charter body" = intergovermental independent body, separate entity of OHCHR,

" treaty based body" = inter-national body (but not a inter-governmental body and no separate OHCHR entity) created under international treaties , "experts" are mandated to monitor State parties' compliance with their treaty obligations. 18 members, not more than one national of the same state party to a covenant, a covenant

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/Pages/HumanRightsBodies.aspx

In our case are 2 bodies of special interest:the first is charter-based:

Human Rights council (HRC) working with the UPR process (UPR = a state-driven process under auspices of Human Rights council)

Youtube: What is HR council https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2YJgfJ1rC4and

The second is one of the human rights treaty bodies namely the Human Rights Committee that is monitoring Implementation of CCPR ( International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights) treaty obligations an thus itself abbr. CCPR because HRC is already used for the council.

Youtube: What is HR treaty body? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE0T45t040k&feature=related

In the process JW submissions are discussed in one charter-based and in one treaty-based Human Right body.