Sanchy
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Theramin Trees: Becoming Fools | A Visit From Some JWs
by pale.emperor inexcellent video from theramin tree's.
it's funny that we can relate entirely to the jw's in this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewehb4qm1hg.
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Sanchy
Great video! His arguments for the absurdity of the JW teacher/classroom/rebellious student analogy might come in handy when conversing with a PIMI -
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Bethelites Vow Of Poverty
by pale.emperor informer governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.
it reads rather culty.
i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.
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Sanchy
I'm surprised they didn't mention anything about pillows in that list.
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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Sanchy
You are talking nonsense. As per my last post you will see that DPIs also need to agree with and accept the UN charter, which has been said here 100x outlines the UN's role for peace and security.
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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Sanchy
All NGOs aren’t even the same? Why are you ignoring this? Does it matter?
Yes, WT was a DPI NGO. They too need to "share the principles of the UN Charter" and have a "demonstrated interest in the United Nations"... https://jwfacts.com/images/united-nations-2004-p1.jpg
Again, the principles that you yourself admit "violated their beliefs" were there from the very beginning and continued each successive year afterward in which they voluntarily renewed their membership.
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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Sanchy
You said that once already, and you’re wrong. The WT thanked the guardian for bringing the NGO changes to its attention in the 2001 letter, changes that violate their beliefs, and they withdrew.
There were no "NGO changes". There was nothing new brought to the attention of Watchtower. The criteria for NGO membership were the same in 1991 as they were in 2002. The same factors that you yourself admit "violate their beliefs" were at play in 1991.
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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Sanchy
An individual JW is free to have affiliation with any organization he wants, granted his association does not require a violation of his beliefs.
...and any affiliation with the UN indeed is a "violation of his beliefs", as has been outlined repeatedly here. If it weren't the case, WT would not have disconnected itself as soon as the public found out.
You are doing great exJW work here Doubter. Thank you!
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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Sanchy
I for one am glad Doubter is here. That way lurkers can see how apologists resort to word play and blatant dishonesty.
A JW would know that ANY voluntary affiliation with the UN would be inappropriate for all JWs, including those at the top. A JW would know that an individual JW would be reprimanded for it. The fact that WT disconnected itself upon public becoming aware of it proves so as well.
A lurker would thus see the obvious double standard and hypocrisy at play.
So Doubter can attempt to deflect and excuse all that he wants, he's not gonna get anywhere in trying to justify and excuse WT's affiliation with the UN.
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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Sanchy
I said that the charter doesn’t say what you claim it says. In other words you’re forcefully interpreting it and watchtower articles.
Can you remind me again what I claimed "the charter said that it didn't really say"? As far as I remember the charter quote I posted was from the original charter, way before 1992.
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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Sanchy
You will end up having to show that every year from 1992-2001(?) or 2004, I don’t remember which, they agreed to support to UN as the solution it peace so to maintain DPI NGO status.
Non-sense. Why would I need to prove this?
To make my point easier for you to understand: Your insistence in claiming that the NGO membership in 1992 didn't require charter agreement is a moot point since WT had to renew it's membership yearly. Do you understand now?
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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Sanchy
Since there are/were many NGOs, also look up the 1992 requirements to qualify for DPI NGO status (which WT was).
Just saying, accusing someone of being in cahoots with the UN requires much more than selectively interpreting WT articles.
Watchtower had to renew it's membership yearly, so this argument of only looking at 1992 is moot.
The fact that Watchtower disconnected itself from UN NGO membership and began creating excuses as soon as it became public shows that it's membership was, at best, inappropriate. It created a double standard for itself and acted hypocritically.