Interestingly, as soon as it became public that WT was an NGO member, it took action to disconnect and create excuses. Why do so if it "didn't go against any JW beliefs"?
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
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Sanchy
This why interpreting this stuff fails
It does not give direct support for, nor does it directly oppose, God’s Kingdom IN THE CHARTER, which this is about.
Watchtower claims otherwise, as shown on the quote i pasted on previous post. Any claims of peace seeking coming from the UN are blasphemous. No need to interpret it. It's pretty direct.
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
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Sanchy
This will be spelled out in the charter/contract.
None of the references to peace within the charter invoke God's kingdom. Instead, it outlines the general policies and procedures it would take on it's own.
Even Watchtower understands this:
Great expectations were held out for it, and it was given designations that were really blasphemous from the standpoint of the Holy Bible. How so? In that to this wild beast powers were ascribed and tasks were assigned that really belong to Gods kingdom and its Messiah or its Christ. Watchtower 1963 Nov 15 p.697
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
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Sanchy
I think my police analogy was appropriate.
No, it was not, for various reasons:
1) The police departments are not attempting to reach "world peace and security", a goal WT claims belongs only to God's kingdom.
2) The WT has repeatedly written that the UN is a beast that blasphemes against God. What is the "blasphemy" in question? Seeking world peace through means other than the kingdom. WT has never claimed the same about police depts.
3) By WT "signing the paper", it wasn't agreeing with just a generic goal of achieving peace, it was agreeing with the "blasphemous" goal of seeking such world peace without God.
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
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You haven’t proven your case. You went from the YMCA, to blood banks, to your interpretation of principles, to agreeing they support peace, to agreeing with me that they don’t look to the UN, etc
Your ineptitude in deciphering and analyzing my arguments is not a valid counter-argument. You have nothing left.
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You obviously have nothing left.
-The principle behind the YMCA quote applies to the UN. As per WT's own word, no association or link whatsoever should exist between a servant of God and these "wicked" organizations. Your claim that since WT didn't specifically write about the UN it wouldn't be wrong to associate oneself with it is both frivolous and blatantly dishonest.
-The WT does support peace, but it's publications claim it absolutely abhors the idea behind the UN's goal of peace without God's kingdom.
Keep the lies coming, you are doing great service for lurkers here!
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No matter how you try to spin it, Watchtower publications show it would NOT agree with the goals of the UN of achieving peace WITHOUT God's kingdom. In fact, it demonizes such a goal and labels it blasphemy against God. Keep the lies coming.Vouching support for the UN to achieve its goals, and agreeing with it goals (the same ones you have) are really not nearly the same thing.
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Sanchy
Yes, they do. WT magazines say God will do the exact same things the UN claims it can.
JWs support God as being the source of that. DPI NGOs were not obligated to give support to the UN as being the source.
Your dishonesty shines though again. Interestingly, you refute your own claim. WT indeed does support peace through God's kingdom, but not through the UN. Any claim made by the UN to achieving peace is viewed as a direct insult to God's kingdom, as per WT's own writing, which I previously quoted.
Will you continue lying?
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
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The goals of the UN is not in violation of JW beliefs.
They absolutely agree with those goals.No, they absolutely do not. As per my previous post, watchtower views any UN claims of seeking peace as blasphemous, a direct insult to God's kingdom. Your dishonesty is transparent.
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NVM
..right.