Per the Pop Up, 64% of boys "Beat it" before the age of 15!
They are now playing "Beat it"
Per the Pop up, 10% never Beat it!
teenyuck
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The Jackson Family (Michael, etc)
by teenyuck init is 3 pm est, on vh-1, they are showing pop-up video.
they are showing all the jacksons.
they just showed la toya.
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The Jackson Family (Michael, etc)
by teenyuck init is 3 pm est, on vh-1, they are showing pop-up video.
they are showing all the jacksons.
they just showed la toya.
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teenyuck
It is 3 pm EST, on VH-1, they are showing Pop-Up Video. They are showing all the Jacksons.
They just showed La Toya. The Pop Up showed she was a devout JW and was not allowed to play cards. She was "shunned" by them in 1986.
They are showing the Jacksons for the next 1/2 hour! A whole Michael show is at 3:30.
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What did you give up to become a witness?
by sleepy inwhat did you give up to become a witness?.
was it something you are still glad about or something you regret.. i'll start of with things i gave up.
(even though i was brought up in the truth talks and the mags made you guilty about certain things).
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teenyuck
Education.
Because Armageddon was predicted in 1975, my mother and father did not think learning math and science would be any good. This attitude was very strongly pushed by the magazines and the elders. Overall, education was not high on a list for young people.
When Armageddon did not occur and I was in high school, I could barely do long division. The high school I went to required one year of math to graduate. I took Introduction to Algebra. Got a D. I graduated high school, however, I was taking Home Ec and Typing. I should have been taking math and science. I got no direction from my parents.
I did not graduate college because of math. I could not pass a college math class. It took 16 years for me to finally get my degree.
This more than anything enrages me.
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Honest Research: Why?
by Adonai438 ini am trying to gather info.
on why people leave the wt.. i have read many personal stories but thought it would be easier to just post the question:.
if you can remember, what was the very first thing.
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teenyuck
Well, lets see...where to begin...
I was 5 when my mother joined the dubs. Her grandfather (paternal) had been an annointed dub; so was his wife. She became an evil-slave. The son, my mothers father never became a dub.
My mothers mother became a dub after marrying into the kinda dub family. Her husband was not, however her father-in-law was. He was revered as being one of the 144,000. Bottom line, he was a hateful bum. He did not love his wife. He needed someone to clean and cook. Why would a future angel sleep with an "evil slave?" That question remains unanswered by my still maternal dub family.
Anyway, back to me. When my mother became a JW when I was 5, I immediately hated it. I knew something was not right. From the Paradise book we learned Jah was going to kill everyone, including all the bad children, etc. How can a child be expected to understand the theory of God at age 5? Anyway, I had no friends. No witnesses at my Chicago public school. No friends at recess or lunch. No playmates after school. There were plenty of children, however, they were BAD ASSOCIATIONS! Yeah right. My sister and I were vilified in our mostly catholic neighborhood. We did not pledge allegiance, attend birthday parties, etc.
Cut to teens. We moved to the suburbs. It was 1972. Armageddon was coming. I was 10. We were told we had better start preaching heart and soul so when it occured we would survive. Then, we would be perfect. We would play with the wild animals, live in pardise and be perfect. For a chubby kid with no friends, this sounded pretty good. I went out in service!
I got baptized at age 13. Just under the wire!
In the mean time, my parents broke up. My father was DF'd for smoking. He recently told me that he was really upset the way my mother changed when she became a JW. No more fun. No more oral sex. They invaded the bedroom. This is wrong. They could not get him for adultery, so they DF'd him for smoking. How stupid. We were told we should not speak to him. That's good, shun your father. Who pays the bills. Dad ended up leaving our home within 6 months of being DF'd.
My sister was DF'd for fornication. When she had a baby 6 months after her wedding, they DF'd her. No meeting, nothing. It was 1978. I do not know what the rules are now, however, back then, they said they had proof of fornication; she had a healthy baby 6 months after her marriage. Again, conjecture on their part. They announced it and BAM, she was gone.
My mother was DF'd for fornication. She, after being divorced in 1974, had numerous boyfriends, all worldly. She finally slept with one of them, in 1978. She came home and told me. I begged her not to 'confess' she did anyway. She was DF'd, in spite of being repentant. As an aside, they grilled her for the details and one of the elders got an erection listening to the details. She came home and told me. I was her 15 year old best-friend and psychologist.
During this time, 1975 came and went. No Armageddon. HUH? I would dream about waking up in Paradise. It never happened! I watched families sell businesses, go on lavish vacations (there won't be planes in Paradise, remember?) and spend like crazy. Who needs money? Jah will take care of us in the new system. Which never came!
Many people and families were ruined fiancially by this.
My issues boiled down to:
1. No education-all goes back to paradise and armageddon
2. Women in subjection-I don't agree with it. Period.
3. Armageddon-wrong
4. God-I stopped believing in God. If there is a God....
5. The bible-book of stories, passed down that got changed as it got told. Too unreliable to believe any of it.
6. Shunning family who have made a mistake per JW rules-WRONG.
7. Blood issue-The WTBTS has changed direction on this too many times. They are a farce.
8. UN issue-joining the Great Beast to use the library? Come on!Basically, the JW's left me with a deep distrust of any religion. I firmly believe that religions feed on people's need to know...something. Religious leaders take advantage of this by imposing ridiculous rules and regulations. The leaders get power and prestige; perhaps wealth.
I firmly believe the WTBTS led to the break up of my parents marriage. Its rules turned my mother into a shrew. The shunning that has occured between my mother's family (all her sisters are JW) and mine is wrong. This mind control destroys people.
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Freewill - a paradox
by gravedancer ini have had a couple of discussions about freewill lately but it seems as if i am talking to a brick wall.
here is my basic reasoning, perhaps you can point out what i am missing.. lets outline the 2 common assumptions normally associated with the debate concerning adam, god and freewill:.
2. god gave adam freewill to obey him or not to.
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teenyuck
Gravedancer-
Exactly!!!!!!!
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I studied the The Paradise Book...
by teejay in"... soul-chilling terror will spread through the masses... .
a flesh-eating plague will destroy many... eaten up will be .
the tongues of those who scoffed and laughed at the warning .
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teenyuck
I avoided reading this post because I did not want to be reminded...then the lure of the book got me....
YIKES!!! I hated that book. As pointed out earlier, this made me question how a "kind, loving, God" could kill children and animals. I started having my doubts.
I need to go take my Zoloft!
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Freewill - a paradox
by gravedancer ini have had a couple of discussions about freewill lately but it seems as if i am talking to a brick wall.
here is my basic reasoning, perhaps you can point out what i am missing.. lets outline the 2 common assumptions normally associated with the debate concerning adam, god and freewill:.
2. god gave adam freewill to obey him or not to.
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teenyuck
gravedancer,
I am glad you brought this up. I have had the same question. My mother is still an ardent JW, when asked, I have gotten the same answer DakotaRed gave.
Which all goes back to is God almighty? If there is a God (my beliefs do not support the theory) and he were almighty, he would have known what Adam was going to do.
Which brings up the question of why did God, the almighty, let Satan continue? Why not zap him like a mosquito? Why create all the misery and suffering humans have endured? For our free will?!
It all defies logic.
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teenyuck
So What?! It is a designation that is meaningless to someone who does not believe in God or the bible.
This thread is like someone standing on the play ground and shouting names. What is your point?
Many of us have been called apostate. What of it? Should I roll over and die?
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Total combined number of years out for community
by Celtic incould everyone just give me the figure for the number of years they have been out?
what is our total in years of combined experience here?.
me 7 years.
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teenyuck
I was batized when I was 13. I drifted away when I was 20. I am now in my late 30's. About 18 years.
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British Food.
by Englishman inok all you non-brits, tell us how you love/hate our british cuisine.. 1. roast potato's.. 2. liver and onions.. 3. yorkshire pudding.. 4. devilled kidneys.. 5. steak and kidney pie.. 6. fish and chips.. 7. breast of pigeon.. 8. vindaloo.. 9. roast lamb.. 10. stilton blue cheese.. englishman.. bring on the dancing girls!
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teenyuck
1. Roast potato's--YUM
2. Liver and onions-UGH
3. Yorkshire pudding-What is it?
4. Devilled kidneys-UGH
5. Steak and kidney pie-UGH
6. Fish and chips-YUM
7. Breast of pigeon-YUM
8. Vindaloo-Vinda-Who?
9. Roast lamb-YUM
10. Stilton blue cheese-HMMM...as Ranchette said, dip or dressing, or right from the package on a salad.
Why all the organs of cows?