pseudoxristos
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Ye of Little Faith
by Zechariah ini am pained by the lack of faith by people on the board recently both in god and in general.. it is obvious that unbelievers in god would have such lack of faith.
but it is not confined to them alone but to others that though believers in god have little trust and confidence in him.. these of little faith constantly cry for proof and evidence both of god existence or in the case of bill bowens letter to the wts proof of govering body members guilt as child molesters.
they haven't the ability to believe or have faith without physical evidence.. one of my main mentors is tv minister fred price which i watch every sunday morning.
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Ok, I'm ready to believe. So how do I decide what I'm ready to believe? How do I know what I believe is what I'm suppose to believe? Do I believe what I believe, or what I don't believe but should believe? Or should I believe what you say you believe, but you don't really believe it because you just choose to believe it?
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If you can't beat em...
by Paradiselost inhas anyone on the board ever joined a cong as an unknown apostate, gained a reputation, and then tried to show certain members the errors in their ways. i'm in a sitation that makes the following hypothetical possible. should i do it...has anyone attemted it? thoughts?
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I've tried the "Start a Study" routine. When my wife (now ex-wife) was a witness, she was constantly on my a** to become a witness. At the time the internet was not available, so the only information I could find were the few books that I could get my hands on. To say the least, I was religiously ignorant. I had no clear plan, I just wanted to show them that their beliefs were wrong. I didn't convince them of anything. After awhile there is no polite way to object to some of their incorrect beliefs. If they knock on my door again, I'm not sure what I will do. The biggest problem I can see is, that they will not want to accept traditional Christianity, and the atheist/agnostic is probably out of the question. Where do you suggest they go?
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The Enormous Price of Lack of Faith
by Zechariah intrusting god is far more than merely believing he exists.. i just this evening watched a senate session on cspan on the subject of delaying deciding on preemptive strikes against iraq.
it was very interesting to see how lack of trust in god causes irrational fear that people will be willing to sacrafice all their wealth, their comforts, and even the lives of their children.
without the belief that god exists and that spiritual forces exist there is hopelessness.
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How can anybody deny the multitude of testimonials of miracles people experienced during and after the tragedy. The heroes and the victims all gave credit to God. Are they all delusional or is it you thats spiritually blind without the eyes to see the unseen. (Faith)
How come the religious always imagine that miracles occur during or after tragedies. I don't think I could count the number of times I've heard this line of BS. We've all heard the stories from friends where a loved one has become sick but is now getting better because God is answering their prayers. BS, BS, BS. Show me a real miracle. Show me a miracle that will convince everyone that there is a God. Show me a miracle that will stand the test of time. Why do we have to rely on miracles so questionable that logic can easily find another reasonable explanation?
Give us a God with the power to actually do something.
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Maybe this is the TRUTH!?
by Mr Bean ini've found the most important source of information about... afterlife.
http://www.victorzammit.com/index.html
http://www.victorzammit.com/articles/silverbirch.html
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pseudoxristos
Hey, someone can win a million
$1 MILLION
CHALLENGE
...is being made to any closed minded materialist skeptic in the world who can rebut the existing expressly stated scientific evidence for the afterlife. Read more...598days!
As at Sunday July21st 02. The materialist, closed minded skeptics continue to fail to win the $1 million reward first offered 1st February 2001No closed minded materialist professional skeptic or debunker, scientist, philosopher, negatively prejudiced lawyer, academic, professor or anybody else anywhere in the world, has beaten the psychics' $1million challenge! The substantive afterlife evidence contained in The Book is found to be irrebutable and irrefutable!
Very amusing, check out rules 6 and 7.
6. The applicant and the offeror accept that the decision of the Committee in relation to the submissions will be absolute, irrevocable and final.
7. The applicant agrees that the level of proof required to rebut the evidence will be the Cartesian test, "beyond any doubt". This means that there has to be absolutely no doubt at all in the minds of the Committee that the 'evidence' has been rebutted.
Oh well, I guess no one will be getting that million.
Where is the donation box?
Found it!
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Reason why I reject the Bible
by refiners fire insome christian clear this up for me willya?
christians are saved thru the mediation of christ right?
if thats the case, will someone tell me why god spent 3000, 2000 years, however long, stuffing around with patriachs and israelites?
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Maybe he's working on his next plan right now. I hope it makes more sense.
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The Story Of Job: JWD Style
by Zechariah inthe following is a past post from the old h20 before the skeptics migrated over to jwd for whatever reasons they had at the time.
i was pretty much worn out at the time as i was just beginning my mission to proclaim the creator and his existence.
the time miraculous has come to resume that fight with new vigor for i no longer have to start from scratch.
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Zech,
Did you just think that up out of thin air.
No. I don't really have enough time or the background to thoroughly analysis the entire bible. So I have to rely on others more qualified to do it. Their analysis may not be totally accurate, but they seem to make more sense than your analysis.
Surely you have some Bible scholar to quote to back that up.
Of course I do. Can you provide a bibliography for the book of Job?
You would dismiss the Bible as easily as you dismiss God. Yet you would say you are not biased. Maybe you are just trying to experiment with the power of belief.
Actually for me it was the other way around. First I obtained sufficient evidence to dismiss the Bible, then God.
Of course I'm biased. The evidence that I have seen has biased me towards disbelief. Anything that you present will be weighed against that evidence. Any scripture that you quote will be viewed in light of my past examination of the that evidence. I am not biased to the point of not considering the possiblity that God exists, or that the Bible is his word. I will look at evidence in support of the Bible/God, if it makes sense. But, it must be pointed out that I had believed in God and the Bible for more than 3/4 of my life. I believe that I am well aware of most of the evidence for the Bible/God. At this point in my life the Mountain of evidence against the Bible/God far outweighs the pile of dirt infavor of the Bible/God. If you have any evidence please present it, hopefully I will have not already considered it.
Were you aware of the scholars opinions concerning the book of Job and the Elihu speeches?
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The Story Of Job: JWD Style
by Zechariah inthe following is a past post from the old h20 before the skeptics migrated over to jwd for whatever reasons they had at the time.
i was pretty much worn out at the time as i was just beginning my mission to proclaim the creator and his existence.
the time miraculous has come to resume that fight with new vigor for i no longer have to start from scratch.
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Zech
ELIHU CONTINUED:
The four Elihu speeches are not considered part of the original work.
(2)(3) "Do you think it is right for you to claim, "I haven't sinned, but I'm no better off before God than if I had"?
(4) I will answer you, and all your friends too.
(5)Look up there into the sky, high above you ............He is not introduced in the opening narrative. His speeches are not anticipated in the preceding chapters, nor does it have any effect in what follows. He is not taken into account at all in the closing narrative. The insertion of his speeches interrupt what is clearly intended as the direct movement from the speeches of Job to those of God. In several instances when God speaks it is presupposed that Job has just spoke not Elihu. There is substantial linguistic differences between his speeches and the context. The poem makes much more sense when these speeches are removed.
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Questions For The Skeptics (Unbelievers)
by Zechariah ini have announced i am on a crusade to encourage skeptics to think on the issue in a way they probably have never done before.
i initially have made the mistake of cramming everything into one, two or three posts.
this i should have immediately recognized is an impossibilty because what i have in mind requires a great amount of meditation to fu;;y comprehend.
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Zech,
You refuse to accept that all belief is a matter of choice.
I have to admit that sometimes I have a problem with the uncertainity of the origin of life. This seems to be the one question that does not have a satisfactory answer without a creator. But, on the other hand the theory of Creation has its own problems. I (must) choose to believe the Theory that has the least amount of problems. An invisible being that refuse to communicate with Mankind in an effective manner is far more troublesome than the Theory of evolution. All powerful Gods should have the power to convince me that they exist. Their refusal to do so does not help their position.
I am not by any evidence forced to believe a certain way.
I am forced to believe a certain way by evidence and also by the lack of evidence. Evidence does not necessarily mean that something is absolutely a fact without some doubt. To believe in opposition to the evidence, is to live in denial.
This being true the wise thing is only to believe only that which it benefits me to.
How do you determine what is of benefit to you? Is your decision as to what is of benefit based upon evidence? Or do you just flip a coin on that decision also? When the coin lands heads up, do you decide that the evidence indicates heads up, or do you just believe what you want?
Oh, yeah, If God truly does not exist, how do you benefit by believing in him? Will your thoughts and actions that are based on your belief in God be pointless and therefore of no benefit (waste of time)?
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edited for grammar and clarity, also added the following:
Does the evidence indicate that God exists or does not exist?
If you answer, "exists", then you believe in agreement with the evidence, therefore how can we know that you choose to ignore the evidence?
If you answer, "does not exist" then you know that God does not exist, but just say you believe he does. Knowledge and belief cannot be separated. If you know he does not exist, this discussion is pointless.
If you answer, "don't know" then we still cannot believe that you choose to ignore the evidence.
Edited by - pseudoxristos on 24 September 2002 4:34:18
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Society's stance on neanderthals?
by Ephanyminitas inhere's a question: how many licks does it take to get to the center of a t--?.
uh ... sorry.. here's the right question: what is the society's official stance on neanderthals?
there was a recent article in "u.s. news & world report" that mentioned them; and i realized, "hey!
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pseudoxristos
They claim that the fossil skeleton found was merely deformed from disease .
Do they really claim this?
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