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  Larc's weekend survey

  by larc in

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  could you please take a few minutes to answer the following questions:.

  1. your age.

  2. how long were you a witness.

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  1. your age...52

  2. how long were you a Witness...11yrs

  3. how long have you been out of the religion...5 yrs

  4. which of the following symptoms did you experience as a witness.

  4a. depression..no

  4b. low self esteem...no

  4c. anxiety...no

  4d. psychosis ...no

  5. Today, which of those symptoms do you have? none

  Comment...went in "normal"...faded in the same state...

  6. Today, how would you rate your overall degree of happiness 1. much less happy than as a JW 2. somewhat less happy 3. just as happy 4. somewhat more happy 5. much more happy.
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  Butte, MT , longmont, franktown,Brighton CO

  by jurs in

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  is anyone from the butte mt area or the franktown cong.

  in colorado.

  it'd be nice to chat.

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  Tera...re Billings...did you know the Stevens (Olaf and Dawn)and Riddle families? Just wondering...thanks
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  Former Elders Please Check IN

  by jst2laws in

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  i noticed quite a few former elders commenting on the thread:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37801&site=3&page=1

  i thought it was amusing that about 20 percent of the bethelites in my department at bethel have left the organization.

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  yes...former elder...7 years...in NY and Ma...walked away
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  Fire at assembly hall under construction

  by proandcon in

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  this happened at the new ass'y hall in newburgh ny.

  it is very close to wt farms.

  it always amazed me that more of these accidents didn't occur as the "friends" raced to outdo each other in the building work.

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  This happened at the new ass'y hall in Newburgh NY. It is very close to WT Farms. It always amazed me that more of these accidents didn't occur as the "friends" raced to outdo each other in the building work. Fortunately, no one was reported injured. Was this fire caused by Satan...or was Jehovah sending a message...either answer is right!

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  Fire rips through unfinished assembly hall By Kristina Wells
  Times Herald-Record
  [email protected]
  
  Newburgh A fast-moving fire tore asunder the aspirations of an entire congregation yesterday.
  The Assembly Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses on Route 17K was near completion when the blaze broke out yesterday afternoon and destroyed a significant portion of the building.
  Jerry Canfield, town of Newburgh fire inspector, said the blaze appears accidental. Workers using a blow torch somehow ignited the insulation in the roof and the fire spread from there, he said.
  "There's a lot of smoke damage throughout the whole building and fire damage to 30 percent of the building," Canfield said, adding that the fire is still under investigation.
  The hundreds of volunteers from the congregation who toiled on the hall for more than a year vowed to rebuild.
  "It's disappointing because you have many professional volunteers who gave of their time," said Jeff Baker, congregation chair of the construction committee. "We'll certainly be ready to rebuild."
  The hall will serve 25,000 Jehovah's Witnesses, Baker said.
  All of the workers were evacuated and there were no injuries, Baker said. The volunteers, all skilled laborers and members of the congregation, watched as more than a dozen fire companies and an estimated 100 firefighters put out the fire.
  "They're qualified, skilled people. They're real tradesman and they know what they're doing," Canfield said.
  The Good Will Fire Department responded to the blaze shortly after 4 p.m. and found the south portion of the hall engulfed in flames. They called for assistance from fire companies in Ulster, Orange and Dutchess counties.
  
  
  

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  Bethelites at WT Farms 1985-1993

  by proandcon in

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  any bethelites or ex on the forum?

  i was in the local congregation (bloomingburg - very near the farm).

  though not a bethelite myself, i and my family enjoyed many fun times with a number of those from the farm.

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  Any bethelites or ex on the forum? I was in the local congregation (Bloomingburg - very near the farm). Though not a bethelite myself, I and my family enjoyed many fun times with a number of those from the farm. Some names include: Pearson, DiMarco, Campbell, Patterson, Singelton, Baker, Ashton, et al. Interested to see if some are now "out" or still "persevering".
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  LOCAL NEEDS TALKS, ANY YOU REMEMBER?

  by minimus in

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  one of the best tools the elders have to counsel the congregation is the local needs part.

  how does one usually get picked for this talk?

  generally, during an elder's meeting, one elder will have his pet peeve.he convinces the body that this issue has to be handled by the body.

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  I was visiting a friend in Vermont once and went to special assembly day with him. The Co gave a "needs of the circuit" part on "Incest and Beastiality"...I was new and wondered why !!!!!!!...how scary was this...I looked around as he was giving the talk and noticed some squirming and shifting eyes...upon leaving, I noticed that some looked quite "strange"...
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  Reinhardt Langtaght

  by proandcon in

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  reinhardt is mentioned in ray's cof c book.

  he was on the writing committee and was forced from brooklyn bethel in the early 80's (along with ray and mr dunlap).

  i understand he may now live in the seattle area and has left the wts.

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  Reinhardt is mentioned in Ray's Cof C book. He was on the writing committee and was forced from Brooklyn Bethel in the early 80's (along with Ray and Mr Dunlap). I understand he may now live in the Seattle area and has left the WTS. Can anyone verify this? Anyone have contact with him today? Reinhardt was one of the most honest and humble people I ever met...thanks

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  Hudson Valley NY

  by proandcon in

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  anyone here from the hudson valley area in ny (middletown, newburgh, poughkeepsie).

  within the vicinity of wt farms.

  was in the area from 1984-1994..

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  Anyone here from the Hudson Valley area in NY (Middletown, Newburgh, Poughkeepsie). Within the vicinity of WT Farms. Was in the area from 1984-1994.
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  Where are you ?

  by sunshineToo in

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  in which part of the planet are you?

  i'm in the sf bay area, ca, u.s.a. i have been there for 17 years.. how about you?

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  north shore of Mass
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  How to Ruin Your Family and Children

  by metatron in

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  1. teach your children that everyone they know that isn't a witness.

  - baby sitters, teachers, policemen, the kind old lady who gave.

  them a dollar for ice cream - are wicked, led by satan and will.

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  Metatron...excellent post...one other point which always got me:

  Highlight "priveleges" (such as holding mike, or cleaning or being an attendant) as if this was the main goal in life. As a result, establishing "classes" right before their eyes...the priveleged and everyone else. Everyone else gets to be "marked" as being not spiritual; not moving with the organization. Instilling bias (and the inevitable competition and pressure this may bring) in a young mind is the sick result!

  Always apprecaite your insight !