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  Do Other Sheep have Eternal Life Now?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  one of the benefits of justification is eternal life for believers.

  i found an interesting passage from the wt, june 15, 1974 which reads:.

  "it is to the spirit anointed christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the christian-greek scriptures is directed, including the promise of everlasting life.

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  JoenB75

  I remember reading a Rutherford book where he stated that the great crowd would have a ressurection of judgment. I dont know how it is today, I think the doctrine is difficult to sell. Of course it is closely linked to the JW extra-biblical beliefs about what will go in a millennium
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  Koreans Becoming Disillusioned with christianity

  by fulltimestudent in

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  at the start of sydney's lockdown, family gossip told me that a relative who is a pastor, was telling his church members, "you cant catch the coronavirus in church.

  "i've hear nothing since, but its interesting that in south korea, a major outbreak was traced to a south korean church that had organised a series of recruiting campaigns in china's wuhan city.. .

  now, the hongkong based newspaper, the south china morning post (one of the best informed news outlets in asia) says that south koreans are getting pissed off withe the jesus mob.

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  JoenB75

  South Korea is super competitative with high focus on plastic surgery and suicide. When it comes to understanding of mental health, they are a third world country. But some of those kpop slave girls sure look cute and they are generally good on visuals. GB knows that too. I am sure there is a lot of Christianity in the country with an equally unhealthy approach.
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  What’s up with the modern Nation of Israel?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  being raised a dub i never voted.

  i’m not a republican or a democrat, not a liberal or a conservative.. i’m pretty middle of the road.

  i want everyone to have a fair shake if possible in this life, but i definitely don’t believe in forced equality, that’s just not possible.

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  JoenB75

  http://www.preteristcentral.com/What%20Christians%20Don't%20Know%20About%20Israel.html
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  What’s up with the modern Nation of Israel?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  being raised a dub i never voted.

  i’m not a republican or a democrat, not a liberal or a conservative.. i’m pretty middle of the road.

  i want everyone to have a fair shake if possible in this life, but i definitely don’t believe in forced equality, that’s just not possible.

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  JoenB75

  Yes Israel is a mixed bag and lead by zionistists, which are dangerous people. But they are Indeed also surrounded by dangerous people. I feel sorry for those Christians who feel they have to involve themselves in middle eastern politics. Most Preterists see no modern biblical revelance to that nation. Some however do believe that God will regather the Jews at some point which is probably biblical ☺️
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  Poll/ So Who Do You Think Will Win The Presidency?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i have always felt trump will win again.

  i just don’t see biden winning.. what’s your prediction?.

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  JoenB75

  The American people have spoken. Trump is in the house. USA USA 😊😊
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  William Miller

  by lepavoux in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  " this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

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  JoenB75

  vienne,

  I understand. It is a fascinating history.
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  William Miller

  by lepavoux in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  " this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

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  JoenB75

  Finkelstein,

  They certainly had their success and imagine if they had taught tithing
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  William Miller

  by lepavoux in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  " this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

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  JoenB75

  vienne,

  I read the first volume of Russell's studies years ago. I think in order for a teaching to be scriptural, it has to be expressed in scripture. It seems to me we have verses that support universalism as an outcome, whereas second chance theology is argued from verses that speak of universal resurrection and judgment, the verses used to argue universalism is also used but interpreted to mean a temporary version, God's prophetic blessings especially to israel and then a strong appeal to freewill belief and "it would be unfair if". Anyway thanks for the link to the Storr's writing, I will look through it .
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  How do JWs view the Ransom?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  looking for a simple explanation of the ransom from a jws perspective..

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  JoenB75

  Yes I believe God himself became man. I think Athanasius though trinitarian worded it so well in "On the Incarnation"; "His body was for Him not a limitation, but an instrument, so that He was both in it and in all things, and outside all things, resting in the Father alone. At one and the same time—this is the wonder—as Man He was living a human life, and as Word He was sustaining the life of the universe, and as Son He was in constant union with the Father". It explains to me how that creating Word became man
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  How do JWs view the Ransom?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looking for a simple explanation of the ransom from a jws perspective..

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  JoenB75

  LV101 yes Arianism makes sense to some people and I can certainly see why the trinity makes no sense to people. We may ask who became man? Who is this new Lord and enfleshed voice of God? ☺️