People to whom God exists upon reason had no experience with God. All they ever had was knowledge and faith in men
JoenB75
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The irony of 2 Tim 3:16-17
by pseudoxristos inall scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of god may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.. most scholars don't think paul wrote 2 timothy.. every time i here a witness quote this verse, i will be reminded of the irony.. -undisputed-.
1 thessalonians.
galatians.
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JoenB75
Doubtlessly many letters were written by Paul's subordinates
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Does prophesy negate free will?
by Tim207 innot sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
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JoenB75
Cofty,
I know JWism. I agree it has little to do with thinking for yourself. But the really sad thing is that many ex JWs think they belonged to some crack unit of true religion when in fact all they had was a very poor substitute for the real thing.
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JoenB75
God on trial. We can put God on trial and unlike what they teach at the kingdom hall that is perfectly ok. But it will evidently not do much good. The existence of God does not depend on human reasoning. The whole idea of philosophical arguments pro and contra God are ridiculous. The Epicurean paradox places the experience of man in the center of the universe but not even scientific philosophies agree that man is in the center of everything. While it is obviously natural for man to yell when he feel pain, this whole Epicurean paradox is about who is in charge. Although few men have the feeling of being in charge of their life, they naturally abhor the idea of God being in charge. Groan creation, groan. It is ok. It is birth pangs.
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Does prophesy negate free will?
by Tim207 innot sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
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JoenB75
Cofty,
Bad mouthing from a disgruntled former follower of men like you is a badge of honour
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Does prophesy negate free will?
by Tim207 innot sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
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JoenB75
Cofty,
Sure and God is not ashamed by it. Remember what Paul says concerning potter and clay. But to sum up the human experience as suffering seems like something coming from a depressed mind. There is much more to it. The idea that the fall was something bad dates back to Augustine. Irenaeus saw it differently.
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Does prophesy negate free will?
by Tim207 innot sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
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JoenB75
Of course nothing says God did not know of the fall (and the reality the allegory portrays) or indeed planned it. The sacrificial Lamb was forordained
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New scrolls
by The Searcher inin 1985 a new phrase was added to our vocabulary, "new scrolls", complete with an explanation as to how they will benefit those who inhabit the new world.
the following five references are the only quotations of this new 'teaching', but incredibly, these two words have been indelibly stamped on most people's minds by repetition from platform speakers, and in general conversation.. w85 6/15 p. 18 par.
21 "during this thousand-year judgment period, jehovah evidently will give additional instructions, unknown to us at present, as new "scrolls" are opened.
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JoenB75
Rubadub,
I was thinking a bit about Stephen Lett's famous statement. In my understanding Revelation deals with the first century and the new heavens and earth is the state of the Church and heaven after AD 70. Revelation 18:2 deals with the judgment upon Jerusalem. I also believe 1 Corinthians 15:26 is yet future
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New scrolls
by The Searcher inin 1985 a new phrase was added to our vocabulary, "new scrolls", complete with an explanation as to how they will benefit those who inhabit the new world.
the following five references are the only quotations of this new 'teaching', but incredibly, these two words have been indelibly stamped on most people's minds by repetition from platform speakers, and in general conversation.. w85 6/15 p. 18 par.
21 "during this thousand-year judgment period, jehovah evidently will give additional instructions, unknown to us at present, as new "scrolls" are opened.
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JoenB75
The sort of inventive speculation you use when you do not accept the simple Bible gospel. Personally I would say the scroll of life relates to the eons where death is not yet subjected (1 Corinthians 15:26) as Revelation clearly does not portray the final state of the every end of ends
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Absolute proof world conditions are getting better
by nowwhat? inthis century vs. beginning of last century-.
we had the great recession they had the great depression!.
so far 125k dead.
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JoenB75
The sad truth is that improved living is dooming us. The Africans, the Chinese etc. are living better and that means overpopulation and overpolution. So when we look at things with secular glasses, we got one obvious cause of doom and gloom there. Here in the West living is certainly better unless we are terrorized by some Muslim gangs.