Yes clearly, people fail because they are people. Some people are better than other people, and some people are really bad. They are also good at using religion as excuse.
JoenB75
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Double Standards of the Watchtower
by Vanderhoven7 inare you aware of any double standards promoted by the organization of jehovah's witnesses?
here a a few i am aware of:.
1. the wts equated joining the ymca with apostasy but felt free to join the un for 10 years (1991-2001).
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Rec'd a letter from my Dad - need some advice...
by Fadeaway3pointer infader here - last meeting was in autumn 2005. lurker on this site and others.
not one to get all controversial.. typical situation, pretty much a born in and left the church at age 38 and never looked back.. i'm 53 now, parents getting older - late 70s but very active, dad is still an elder.. parents, in laws, brother and brother-in-law still uber active jws.. my family (wife and 2 adult children) out since 2005.. we have stayed close to our parents - we have treaded religion lightly and have had a pretty good relationship and have kept our personal lives and beliefs/opinions separated from them.
this was intentional - as we love them and do not want anything to cause shunning since they are getting older and want to be there for them and we respect their beliefs.. got this letter today.
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JoenB75
If I received such a letter and wanted to give a constructive response, I would write back and ask them to justify their position from a biblical viewpoint. It probably accomplishes nothing but there is a fool's hope.
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Double Standards of the Watchtower
by Vanderhoven7 inare you aware of any double standards promoted by the organization of jehovah's witnesses?
here a a few i am aware of:.
1. the wts equated joining the ymca with apostasy but felt free to join the un for 10 years (1991-2001).
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JoenB75
"except for the JW attorneys and doctors who serve at Bethel." maybe you are supposed to believe they do repent of their evil and try to atone by serving Jehovah
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Does Anyone Elses PIMI Family Do A "Not Christmas" Day?
by pale.emperor ini was told today that my jw family had a massive family gathering with presents exchanged, drinks and a big roast dinner.
they even wore paper hats.. the day they chose for this family day?.
26th december.. totally not christmas or anything - honest.. does anyone elses family do that?
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JoenB75
Not everyones JW experience is equally strict. Not every JW family believes and implements everything they get told. But you might say that those that live a more free life shares in a sort of blood guilt. Maybe a bit harsh to say it, but they have a share in keeping the thing together and those that live freer lifes often have more ressources and better education.
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Russell's followers in British Columbia?
by dubstepped inso i was interviewing a guy for a podcast episode today and he went and saw his grandmother over christmas to gather some history.
he wasn't raised a jw but it turns out his family was actually opposed to the jws because they went all the way back to russell.
according to him (from her stories), they refused to follow rutherford and that's where the split took place.
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JoenB75
Free Bible student service is different than I remember from JW
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Russell's followers in British Columbia?
by dubstepped inso i was interviewing a guy for a podcast episode today and he went and saw his grandmother over christmas to gather some history.
he wasn't raised a jw but it turns out his family was actually opposed to the jws because they went all the way back to russell.
according to him (from her stories), they refused to follow rutherford and that's where the split took place.
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JoenB75
I think Laymen are the biggest and also most JW like. Wiki says they have 15,000 members. They have their own Russell in PSL Johnson. They have some of the harsh herd disciplines of the JWs. Free are liberals and the Associated goes on with Russell's old light
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Did You Know Any "Genuine"" Old School Anointed?
by Number 6 ingrowing up in scotland in the 1970s in scotland the anointed were few and far between, but we had one old dude in our cong who claimed to be one of the anointed.
in the days when it was taken seriously.. i'd be curious how you viewed them.
thing is, he wasn't an elder, or even a ministerial servant, just a plain old publisher.. but he was revered like he had a hotline to jesus.. the other week i was talking to a friend of similar age to me but who hung around the wt a lot longer than i did, and he just commented "oh him... he was a doddery old fool who used to just sit and piss himself.
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JoenB75
I remember ny mother talked of an older woman that "took of the symbols". My mother was not impressed though, believing she was backslidden. There is a really sad story to the garbage teaching of the 144,000. Russell started out with claiming everybody would be raised for a chance in the millenium with the exception of a few real baddies and those that failed the run for "the high calling". Then sometime in the 40s I believe, Rutherford rejected Russell's generous and fanciful understanding of the Matthew 25:31-45 and we got all this' everybody must be saved from the Armageddon slaughter' and the poor average JW is not even a brother of Jesus but is judged according to how he treats the brothers of Jesus, the 144,00 and the org. I remember my poor old father struggled a lot with this diving into forbidden old light, who was right, Russell or Riutherford
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Has Anything Really Changed For JWs In The Last 10 Years?
by minimus in2020 is days away.
has anything really changed for the witnesses or the religion?
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JoenB75
Dancing is a big part of black culture. It is difficult for me to imagine of black / African / African-American congregations just sitting still, but I guess that has happened? I am pretty certain JW org has been forced to allow certain cultural differences for decades?
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Jesus is Yahweh......Titles applied to YHWH and Jesus in Old and N.T.......credit to Bill Cetnar
by krismalone in.
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JoenB75
Finkelstein,
It is always ups and downs with human beings. Without the Bible, there had been no western civilisation with all its blessings and cursings. Right now it seems the western elitarians are so ashamed with what western civilisation has given them that they feel obliged to let 3rd wold immigrations ruin it. Whatever as long as men rule, this world will never be perfect. Perfection is for heaven
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Jesus is Yahweh......Titles applied to YHWH and Jesus in Old and N.T.......credit to Bill Cetnar
by krismalone in.
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JoenB75
Terry,
John 14:8-9 New International Version (NIV)
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
I would add another thought, I think often when we read of God in the old testament, it is really angels representing him. given authority by him and sometimes even letting him down.