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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

JohnR1975

He had specifically asked for 576 pledges. The die is cast regardless of the activity or inactivity of this thread. No matter what stunts he pulls to get the numbers up, the results are only fleeting and they will always return to roughly 1/3rd of what he was or less. A day of reckoning should be upon him soon as he enters a time in his life where he needs to seriously plan for retirement. Is 319 + whatever he gets from YT going to be enough?

He has basically been retired for years now.

how much work is involved making a lame video every week or so?

those 300 fools who send him money will get less and less. He is in a country that he doesn’t speak the language what will he do?

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Is there a new rule regarding disfellowshipped people?

by HOTB in

does anyone have any information about a relaxing of the rules regarding family reaching out to disfellowshipped members?.

i've heard of an elder being openly in touch with a long time disfellowshipped family member.

apparently the term 'compassionate view' had been bandied about.. i can't find anything relating to this.. i'd be interested what the new rule is in when came into play.. hotb .

JohnR1975

Someone put the magazines through my door a number of years ago. I felt embarrassed about how dumbed down they had become. No long articles with in-depth studying. Instead simply written short paragraphs with cartoons!
Now I feel the same perplexity with this change. Thankfully it’s of no personal concern but as an outsider to the org I can only think of the stalwart brothers and sisters I knew as a child who were real bible students of the old school. They would not recognise the Society the way it is now. It is a completely different religion (although they used to claim not to be a religion because they had the Truth).

You are right, it’s a completely different religion now. All those previously disfellowshipped ones can be talked to after all. What about all the children who were distanced from their parents by the GB doctrine?

can they just say ok we got it wrong but now we have it right?

Now we can talk to them.

Now you can just get disfellowshipped for 90 days and come back.

things are falling apart for the GB

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Self control fruits of the spirit. Fat GB seem to lack it

by JohnR1975 in

fruits of the spirit would surely be required to be gb members?

yet some of them seem to lack self control when it comes to eating.

br herd, mark sanderson and br jackson in these are all very obese.. if they travel to poor places wearing their rolex watches and gold pinky rings the brothers there will surely wonder why they are so fat.. there are many scriptures talking about not being greedy and not gluttonous for food.. if they were really chosen by god as his channel on earth then why can’t they show the fruits of the spirit and show self control when it comes to being gluttonous?.

JohnR1975

JW doctrine is these men were chosen to be kings, they were chosen for their fine qualities like self control and not given to overeating or heavy drinking coff Tony

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Big Pharma knew, the vaccine was damaging hearts in young people and damaging life span in others.

by liam in

executive order signed this morning.

prescription drugs reduced by 30-80 percent.

investigation by doge found out that other nations that were paying $100 dollars for a certain drug, americas were paying $1000 dollars or more for the same drug.

JohnR1975

Are there any governing body apologists left who still think Jehovah wanted you to get these injections?

David Splain said these words “it comes down to this folks, do you really believe Jehovah is backing this organisation or not?”

then he said “would Jehovah really allow the GB and all full time servants to take this injection if it was harmful?”

now we know for sure it is a harmful injection and they keep having meeting parts repeatedly saying the advice from the GB to get fully vaxed was such a protection

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Self control fruits of the spirit. Fat GB seem to lack it

by JohnR1975 in

fruits of the spirit would surely be required to be gb members?

yet some of them seem to lack self control when it comes to eating.

br herd, mark sanderson and br jackson in these are all very obese.. if they travel to poor places wearing their rolex watches and gold pinky rings the brothers there will surely wonder why they are so fat.. there are many scriptures talking about not being greedy and not gluttonous for food.. if they were really chosen by god as his channel on earth then why can’t they show the fruits of the spirit and show self control when it comes to being gluttonous?.

JohnR1975

Fruits of the spirit would surely be required to be GB members? Yet some of them seem to lack self control when it comes to eating. Br Herd, Mark sanderson and br Jackson in these are all very obese.

if they travel to poor places wearing their Rolex watches and gold pinky rings the brothers there will surely wonder why they are so fat.

there are many scriptures talking about not being greedy and not gluttonous for food.

if they were really chosen by God as his channel on earth then why can’t they show the fruits of the spirit and show self control when it comes to being gluttonous?

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Who will Survive Armageddon?

by Vanderhoven7 in

breaking news....there is hope for good hearted non-jws!!!.

according to sergio:.

are jehovah's witnesses the only ones to be saved during the end time?.

JohnR1975

Pretty much every single person who died will be resurrected according to JW doctrine. Unless really bad. One fat member of the GB said something along the lines of Jehovah is not going to say well you were still alive during Armageddon now you have to die! If you died just before then you would have made it into paradise 🤣

The new light is that it doesn’t matter if you die before Armageddon or are alive during. There will be a resurrection of the unrighteous.

So pretty much everyone will survive Armageddon only the extremely evil people will be destroyed which includes all apostates is what the new light seems to be.

so if all that is true you may as well be JW lite and wait to see. If it looks like the GB are correct about things you could start to be a bit more JW heavy but until then stay as JW lite as possible. You will make it through if the GB were correct anyway

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Is there a new rule regarding disfellowshipped people?

by HOTB in

does anyone have any information about a relaxing of the rules regarding family reaching out to disfellowshipped members?.

i've heard of an elder being openly in touch with a long time disfellowshipped family member.

apparently the term 'compassionate view' had been bandied about.. i can't find anything relating to this.. i'd be interested what the new rule is in when came into play.. hotb .

JohnR1975

In reality there is much confusion and this is partly by design. It all stems from Norway stopping giving so much money to the fat GB so they went against ToMorris who’s famous last words on broadcast we’re “we are certainly not going to do that” then they did it anyway!

yes you can now speak to disfellowshipped ones. The loophole is you are supposed to invite them to the meeting everytime you speak.

At the meeting members of the cong can now speak to them.

the largest change relates to the 90 day rule. It’s actually very difficult to get disfellowshipped to start with now, but if you are it is just for 90 dsys

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Youths who gave up amazing lives

by JohnR1975 in

when i was growing up i remember many young people interviewed on the platform at assemblies.

the ones who really stood out are the talented ones who gave up amazing lives to pioneer.. i remember specifically when i was a boy in the 70s and 80s some who were very good at sport or something.

their teachers begged them to get professional training use their talents to the full.

JohnR1975

When I was growing up I remember many young people interviewed on the platform at assemblies. The ones who really stood out are the talented ones who gave up amazing lives to pioneer.

I remember specifically when I was a boy in the 70s and 80s some who were very good at sport or something. Their teachers begged them to get professional training use their talents to the full. They sat there on the stage so proud that they turned it all down to pioneer and got a cleaning job or similar.

sure this was the case all over the world.

now these ones are approaching later life they wasted their best years as pioneers. They will be a burden on other as they are broke.

They must be wondering what if they used their best years to the full, then took early retirement and then pioneered?

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Probability of Earth and life being how it is

by ballistic in

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there are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.

but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.

the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.

JohnR1975

The Earth's moon is unique in its ability to cause total solar eclipses.

The probability of a moon having the right size and orbital characteristics to cause total eclipses is considered low.

Why choose the Moon's eclipses as part of this? Because it is our only moon, and clearly visible to everyone on the planet. If you wanted to design a planetary system and put a "signature" out there for everyone to see (more visible than the pyramids for example), choose the moon.

It’s must be obvious to anyone with clear thinking abilities that there is no option that it was all just chance. A big bang explosion and whoosh the sun moon and earth by chance all just happened to land in the right places.

in an eclipse the moon matches up perfectly to the sun from our point of view here on earth. The sun is said to be 400 times larger than the moon and 400 times the distance away, and we are told this was just an amazing coincidence that they landed there after a chance big bang ?

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Damon Wayans witnesses in interview

by neat blue dog in

jws have been loving this & sharing on social media, millions of views in the last few days.

damon does have some light swearing here and there, but he claims to be a practicing jw and gives the whole witness theology about the signs of the last days & breaking down the words of the lord's prayer regarding god's will being done on earth.. starts at the 28:55 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfhnlqfuadw.

JohnR1975

He is obviously JW lite and it’s very encouraging to see his example.

he obviously gets a lot of benefit from being JW lite and he says he loves it.

im sure the GB hate it but this is the new light from AGMs of late, pretty much everyone will survive Armageddon anyway so why not be JW lite?

The new light is that it doesn’t matter if you die before Armageddon or are alive during. There will be a resurrection of the unrighteous.

So pretty much everyone will survive Armageddon only the extremely evil people will be destroyed which includes all apostates is what the new light seems to be.

so if all that is true you may as well be JW lite and wait to see. If it looks like the GB are correct about things you could start to be a bit more JW heavy but until then stay as JW lite as possible. You will make it through if the GB were correct anyway