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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  Vanderhoven7 said:

  The unique doctrines of Jehovah’s Witnesses are the ones that only Jehovah’s Witnesses teach. Here is a list that I’ve compiled…and perhaps Witnesses will be glad to demonstrate that they are found in the Bible.

  1. Only Jehovah's Witnesses teach that there were less than 144,000 faithful Christians that existed prior to the 20th century They alone teach that from all of humanity, there will be exactly and exclusively 144,000 faithful born-again Christians whose destiny is heaven.

  I'll have to get back to the rest of your post some other time, Vanderhoven7, because it's getting late and this is an old forum and it takes me a long time to quote and compose replies. However, I did want to say that if I'm being totally honest, I would think that a group who claims to have exclusive truth from the Bible, would have a different interpretation of scripture compared to mainstream Christians. However, perhaps the governing body may eventually have new light about all the Christians who ever lived since the first century only being of the anointed, and that perhaps many of them could have been of the great crowd class.
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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  slimboyfat said:

  JWs are much closer to the biblical texts than other Christian groups in key teachings including: the importance of God’s name; that Jesus is the firstborn of all creation and subordinate to God; that Christians should be separate from the world and not take part in wars; that consciousness ends at death; that humans will be resurrected to a restored earth; that anointed Christians comprise the ‘Israel of God’; that all Christians must preach; and so on, this is not a complete list. The things they are wrong about are relatively minor and mainly to do with the end times, such as the Gentile Times ending in 1914 and the identity of the ‘faithful slave’.
  

  I basically agree with most of what you said. So, are you still a JW, slimboyfat ?
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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  ElderBerry said:

  Religion comes from a need for hope
  

  I agree.

  ElderBerry said:

  On Reddit many PIMOs are turning to agnostic so they can still have hope.
  

  Could you elaborate... or as JWs used to say, expound on that?Also, they need a sticky here so that people can understand all the PI acronyms. I know some of them, but I'm going to go Google the rest of them.

  ElderBerry said:
  

  I think most PIMIs think the GB maybe wrong on some things otherwise there would never be new lite ever again.
  

  But I would say that they are pretty steadfast and don't really care about that.
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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  Kosonen said:

  I would like to shortly tell my story. When I was about 30 years 19 years ago I saw one WT teaching that was not according to the Bible. Then I thought what else might be wrong? So I started to read the Bible cover to cover multiple times prayerfully to understand which WT doctrines are true and which are false. In that way during several years I found out many things WT teaches correctly but also many things they teach falsely.
  

  So, which ones are those?
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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  Vanderhoven7 said:

  The truth is

  Every unique doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses is extra-biblical, .ie., not found in the Bible.

  Evey teaching that is unique and original to the religion is derived by eisegesis rather than exegesis I.e., speculation additional to scripture.

  But what about the whole Daniel statue thing? Because both Jews and church Christians and skeptics say that the feet of iron and clay is Rome. However, related verses speak about a stone carved from a mountain that smashes that statue and grows and covers all of earth. Therefore, how could Rome be the feet of the statue since the stone carved from the mountain hasn't taken over the world after Rome was destroyed?
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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  KalebOutWest said:

  There are countless people on this forum. You will have to be more specific, such as use their actual name.

  And if you know their name, you can then ask them directly by sending them a message.

  But individual people here who don't know them or about them can't answer questions about others.

  Forums are just like real life. We don't have ESP here either and thus cannot read one another's minds (or yours). It's called "reality," and there are boundries to it.

  (It's like me asking you: "What about that one woman who lives in your town in that one house who likes pepper on her potatoes? You know, the one who wears material made of molecules? What is her father's name?" How are you supposed to know? You can't. I would not ask you to answer a question without enough specifics in it.)

  Well, she was a fairly well-known poster and lots of people at this forum used to refer to her if you wanted a deep Biblical question answered. However, I have known about this forum for a long time, and I haven't seen her post for a while. Therefore, she may have left the forum, or something may have happened to her.
  

  Also, she had a picture of a young girl in her avatar probably in her early twenties, although by now she would be much older looking if she used a current picture.
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  Manners and Respectfulness

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  i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

  but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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  RB said:

  Despite of all being hijacked by a nasty high control group, we still maintain many qualities that make us human.

  Welcome to the group.

  RB

  Thank you, RB.
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  Manners and Respectfulness

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  i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

  but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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  titch said:

  Well, I, as an "ex", or "fader" certainly DO appreciate manners and respectfulness. Who doesn't? And, I can't understand why your question would be offensive to anyone on this forum. Best Regards-----Titch.

  Well, the forum had paused in posting this thread unlike my other threads, therefore, I thought I had said the wrong thing at this forum. Also, there are some people who are very, um, well, let's just say... "energized" at this forum.
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  Manners and Respectfulness

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  i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

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  Sorry about the duplicate thread, but it wouldn't go through at first.
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  Isaiah 40:29-31 and Being Gay

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  i'm new here and i have perhaps an unusual question.

  it's just something that i would like to know from ex's or formers rather than from other jehovah's witnesses.

  but i would like to know what your experience and your struggle was for former jws who were gay when they were jws.

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  Reasonfirst said:

  That brought even greater emotional conflict, and he planned suicide. He wanted to find a good-looking young guy, to have a holiday with, and after that to drive a car off a cliff.

  Almost predictably, he did meet a young guy, but the young guy had some problems, and in helping him found a second life partner with whom to share his life.

  They are still together.

  Well, it sounds like Isaiah 40:29-31 didn't help him since I'm pretty such most JWs have tried to apply those verses to themselves. Although JWs would say that he didn't try hard enough or didn't have enough faith or didn't have enough love for God... or that he never was a real JW in the first place.