Posts by peacefulpete

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2023-01-27--Civil Unrest!

by Atlantis in

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2023-01-27--civil unrest.

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https://postimg.cc/gxqvnfcq.

peacefulpete

His tireless work is of value to millions. Thankyou.

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i read something recently on reddit (not sure what thread) where a person related how some jw told them that ‘they hold a grudge’.. this reminded me of something an old jw acquaintance said to me some years back when i related my bad experience in the religion.. so, apparently, jehovah’s witnesses feel they should be forgiven for anything.

people should forget all about it and act like nothing happened and be charitable towards them, etc… when i read in james and ephesians i got the sense ‘holding a grudge’ was referring to the things average people do to offend each other.. i don’t see it applying to a religion that claimed to speak for god and who engendered hateful and unchristian attitudes towards people.. i know because i experienced this.. in addition, some people’s lives were damaged by listening to faulty teachings and interference in things that were clearly none of anybody’s business.. one case in point: them knocking worldly careers and now there are thousands of destitute jws in senior years with nothing.. then in 2023 the religion does away with a century old teaching about counting hours in the ministry.

meanwhile, i got judged over this.

peacefulpete

Despite what the SCOTUS said, corporations are not people. The WT corporate entity (with it's ever-changing board of directors is not a 'someone' it is a 'something'. Therefore, the notion of holding a grudge is oxymoronic.

I will always wish to avoid and defeat cancer, for example. It would be silly to suggest I'm 'holding a grudge' against cancer. I consider the WT and churches like them a cancer.

People I can and will forgive, forgiving cancer is just word salad.

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What the watchtower demands from you

by Ron.W. in

perhaps you considering joining the wt cult - here is a concise list of why you should not.. what the watchtower demands of you:.

1.complete obedience to them.. 2. be willing to lose your life for zany blood teachings.. 3.put other cult members before your real family.. 4.refusal to let you leave their religion when the penny drops it's a cult.. 6.accept that they can backtrack and change any of their flip flop teachings at any time.. 7. you can't change your mind about their teachings without harsh discipline,.

8. insistence that you humbly and quickly apologise for your mistakes and errors.. 9.gladly accept they will never be apologising for any of their mistakes or errors of judgement.. 10.accept that even ones who follow and believe in the bible, but not the governing body are worthy of destruction.. please feel free to add more..

peacefulpete

They don't demand anything of us.
And if they do. Just say NO

And when they claim their direction to be "God's" direction" or "Jesus' direction" you should say no!, (regardless of what they actually say.) That is the clearest sign of cult control.

So next week when they again, for the thousandth time, claim to be the mouthpiece of Jesus, I heartily recommend you say no! and run.

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Have you seen a UFO/UAP?

by BoogerMan in

the acronym uap once stood for "unidentified aerial phenomena," until december 2022. .

then the pentagon updated its terminology to encompass "submerged and trans-medium objects.".

https://www.defense.gov/news/transcripts/transcript/article/3249303/usdis-ronald-moultrie-and-dr-sean-kirkpatrick-media-roundtable-on-the-all-domai/.

peacefulpete

I expect we will be seeing more, now that drone technology is so cheap.

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What Happens to Those Who Exit Jehovah’s Witnesses: An Investigation of the Impact of Shunning?

by LostintheFog1999 in

i don't know if this has been posted before but i think it is a very in-depth study and definitely worth sharing.. what happens to those who exit jehovah’s witnesses: an investigation of the impact of shunning?.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc9803876/ .

peacefulpete

vienne....Massimo has his own agenda and seems to be unaware or calloused to the well documented damage of high control sects like the 7th day Adventists, JWs and Mormons. Essentially his arguing that the JWs are no worse than others is not much of a defense of the Jws.

Also his comments:

....those who have simply become inactive without a public announcement that they have left the Jehovah’s Witnesses are not shunned.....She would have easily learned from it that not all members who leave the religion are shunned, only those who leave publicly (or join an organization whose membership is incompatible with being one of Jehovah’s Witnesses), thus proclaiming their disagreement with and criticism of the organization.

is manifestly not true. I and my wife for instance attempted to quietly leave but were pursued years later and DF in absentia based upon conversations years before our leaving and unwillingness to shun Df'd siblings. Further, and even more disturbingly, his comment implies shunning is reasonable if an exiting person "joins an organization incompatible with the Jw thus proclaiming their disagreement with and criticism of the organization. "

That is the reason a person exits the JWs, because they disagree. Basic human rights include freedom of belief and religion and to support lawful organizations and to be a functioning citizen. This is the heart of the issue. Mossimo seems to be saying this justifies a coercive program of family separation. He is wrong and his reasoning is as twisted as the JWs.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

peacefulpete

I don't understand the motivation, but some folks really enjoy yanking our chains. Posters like PioneerSchmioneer aka Kaleboutwest are obviously intelligent and have valuable contributions to make, so I don't get the game. All I know is the hot then cold, helpful then accusative whiplash is tiresome.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

peacefulpete

Catfishing.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

peacefulpete

I can't relate, I get better looking each day.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

peacefulpete

Kaleb are you then suggesting the two introductory stories were,by design, supplementary and the work of the same hand?

Or simply that source critical approaches are uninteresting (and and perhaps futile) therefore assessing the final product is preferable.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

peacefulpete

Yes, and as Kaleb said that ought not be any more surprising than his walking around his garden or talking with snakes