The whole eschatology of Revelation is premised on dead being resurrected to face judgement. (first resurrection to a reward) and (2nd resurrection to be judged negatively and burned in Lake of Fire). This same scenario is found in numerous late 2nd temple targums. The dead are resurrected to be judged and those deemed wicked are put in Gehenna (aka Lake of fire).
peacefulpete
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Did You Fully Buy the WT View of Romans 6:7 (Acquitted of Sin by Dying) ?
by Sea Breeze inromans chapter 6 is about saying goodbye to the old personality, the old man in the king james version.
the old personality must die, he cannot be fixed.
the old personality is characterized by dominance of the flesh.
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Goodbye yhwh-Goodbye jesus
by fulltimestudent ininteresting report in a oxford university blog - the world is becoming less religious, (hurray!!!).
quote: "an analysis of religious trends from 1981 to 2007 in 49 countries containing 60% of the world’s population did not find a global resurgence of religion—most high-income countries were becoming less religious—however, it did show that in 33 of the 49 countries studied, people had become more religious (norris and inglehart, 2011).
but since 2007, things have changed with surprising speed.
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peacefulpete
A conversation like this requires commitment to thoughtful engagement. I'm not seeing that.
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Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?
by pistolpete inso the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.
it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.
americans love guns!.
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peacefulpete
Yes and how are we doing so far
Better than we would have if you were in charge of it.
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Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?
by pistolpete inso the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.
it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.
americans love guns!.
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peacefulpete
TD...the assertion was "more guns equals more safety." I simply asked those who believe that, if the logic held true that proliferation of powerful weapons increase safety. I did not make the mistake of oversimplifying human behavior as you suggest. People will hurt each other with whatever means they have, if motivated to. That understanding is behind the logic of locking up the kitchen knives if an argument breaks out. It also is behind the logic of gun regulation.
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Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?
by pistolpete inso the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.
it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.
americans love guns!.
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peacefulpete
pistolpete...You do realize that the website you linked is advocating DOING something about the problem of missing children.
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Goodbye yhwh-Goodbye jesus
by fulltimestudent ininteresting report in a oxford university blog - the world is becoming less religious, (hurray!!!).
quote: "an analysis of religious trends from 1981 to 2007 in 49 countries containing 60% of the world’s population did not find a global resurgence of religion—most high-income countries were becoming less religious—however, it did show that in 33 of the 49 countries studied, people had become more religious (norris and inglehart, 2011).
but since 2007, things have changed with surprising speed.
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Vanderhoven7.......It is only easy to justify killing the unborn by determining that they are not human or not babies.
You're not even trying to understand are you. Yes. To those who have concluded upon evidence that tissue following a genetic program is not yet a human being with sentience, ending that process is within the rights of the mother. No crime is committed if there is no individual being wronged. To those that insist that dna is the determinant of humanness, then I'm leaving millions of humans all over the couch through shed skin and mucous. Even a fully formed organ is not 'a human' and has no rights needing protection. No, it is the "mind" that suffers, the "mind" that contemplates it's existence, the mind that needs protection. Cells without a mind have no humanness. They are not humans.
Not until the 3rd trimester is there any potential at all that something akin to or arguably close to consciousness is possible. For me, in my estimation of available facts, that bears on the question of abortion.
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Dumb Elders
by minimus ini knew a few pretty intelligent elders .
sometimes i would wonder why they remained as elders or even witnesses because they were successful men who made a good living and were highly respected because of their qualities.. that is a rather small group.
most elders that i know of aren’t the brightest bulbs in the sky.
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peacefulpete
Well, given many here were Elders.....
I did know brilliant men who happened to also be Elders and I knew morons who also happened to be Elders. A person must almost be given a pass regarding religious participation when measuring intelligence.
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Car Projects
by peacefulpete inhow many of you enjoy car projects?
we do one for the parade most every year.
this year was a bust but the project is done and ready for next july.
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peacefulpete
Great story! I had quite a few experiences towing crappy cars, but never following the Pope. I recall our old Opel fell in half so we got some bed frames to weld it together. Lasted another year!
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Loyalty to God ( or the Society ) Before The Familiar
by BluesBrother inthis week's midweek meeting has an item on this theme.
as usual there is a video to show:-.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodbibleprinciples/pub-jwbai_201611_1_video.
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peacefulpete
The logic of an abuser. I must emotionally abuse you to make you understand.
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Goodbye yhwh-Goodbye jesus
by fulltimestudent ininteresting report in a oxford university blog - the world is becoming less religious, (hurray!!!).
quote: "an analysis of religious trends from 1981 to 2007 in 49 countries containing 60% of the world’s population did not find a global resurgence of religion—most high-income countries were becoming less religious—however, it did show that in 33 of the 49 countries studied, people had become more religious (norris and inglehart, 2011).
but since 2007, things have changed with surprising speed.
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Vanderhoven7... Hume's type of philosophy bent on of teasing meaning from semantics never appealed to me. I appreciate the mental exercise and precise definitions inherent in the enterprise but in the end the conclusions are often as subjective as the words chosen. "Materialist" for example is not a word most non-deists would choose to describe themselves as it falsely assumes the void of social values in people who are not convinced in the existence of gods. BTW There have been a number of equally clever philosophical rebuttals of Hume's conclusion that don't impress me any more than he does.
In this particular subject you seem passionate about, abortion. The choice of language is extremely revealing, you keep calling the aborted fetuses "babies" which is loaded with imagery and emotional impact that assume a conclusion, that fetal tissues are the same as babies. I'm not interested in changing your opinion about that as it is your conclusion to draw. The opposite view is likewise a conclusion someone is theirs to draw. Most of us (reflected in abortion laws) have nuanced perspectives that include details about the lateness of the development and health of the fetus and mother etc.
What I know is that the question of atheism or theism really doesn't determine how someone feels about this issue. It's more a matter of education, projected personal experience and possibly even genetics. If someone had the experience of losing a pregnancy that was highly anticipated and desired, they would naturally have more difficulty understanding why others would not place deep emotional significance to the early stages of pregnancy. I will also not discount the role genetics play in how the drive to reproduce is much stronger in some than others.
People of an opinion on this topic seek others that have a similar view to advocate for this view, a group identity forms. Not wrong or dangerous as long as it doesn't blind a person to the fact that others have a right to have different views.