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  Are we pro-shunning or against it?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just to continue my theme about religious freedom and how we approach criticizing the wts, i've also been thinking about 'shunning'.. i think shunning is the most unifying complaint that most ex-members of religious groups that practice it have in common.

  it is the layer that runs under every other complaint - whatever the reason for leaving it seems "... and i was shunned" can be added to it as the final rap on the charge sheet.. of course it seems like a no-brainer to many of us and we hardly ever stop to really think about it - shunning is bad, the watchtower believes in shunning therefore the watchtower is bad.

  they need to stop it.

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  I shun idiots
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  Theocratic warfare [AKA Lying for the Truth]

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my elder brother made the mistake of telling me about the wts policy of theocratic warfare.

  he first called it 'lying for the truth' then he tried to tone it down to theocratic warfare.

  he justifies this position by citing the scriptures that say do not throw pearls to the swine for they will trample them under foot and tear you to pieces.. my question is .

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  How could we survive lest the WTS save us from ourselves?

  once the idea of "keeping" the R&F in the truth is more important than truth itself the GB can justify saying anything and sleep just fine

  ray franz touched on this in CoC, to paraphrase:"if we let the sheep decide for themselves who knows how far they'll take it" or something like that
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  Evidently, the 24 Elders are directing the Governing Body

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am grateful for holy spirit's ability to dredge up long-forgotten spiritual gems that lurk in dark caverns of the mind.. it has been revealed -- for your edification and enlightenment -- that the resurrected anointed among the symbolic 24 elders do, indeed, play a vital role in the new but typically confusing developments in the world of jw theology.. in the much revered but oft maligned book, "revelation: its grand climax at hand!

  " we discover the reason behind it all:.

  ] resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today.

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  Leaving quietly

   

  On top of that the 144k wasn't even all born yet in 1914 so the unborn 144k were somehow there and singing to their unborn selves???
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  I was shy on my first JW.ORG Video, I am so happy sharing God's Organization with you!

  by JWCart1975 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw.org is the fastest growing media outlet in the world, our local cobe said we are going to take the media from satan's wicked world!

  repent before it's too late and come back to the kingdom hall with all your loving brothers and sisters!

  you won't find happiness without jehovah's organization and you know it!

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  Only Jehovah's people have true happiness without the debilitating anxiety and fear the World inflicts on you.  While others are suffering from alcoholism, drug addiction, over-use of antidepressants, Jehovah's Organization keep's it's membership busy

   jw's have all those problems too
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  Your Expert Research is needed!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  friends:.

  doug mason needs no introductions here.

  we all know him to be an excellent writer, such as: blondie, terry, jwfacts, barbara anderson and countless others on this board.. doug is asking for assistance on a new project he is working on to explain in terms easy to understand, the changes the watchtower now expects jehovah's witnesses and others to believe.. your expert knowledge on these subjects such as: 144,000, great crowd, order of special full time servants, and governing body would be greatly appreciated.

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  Marked
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  It's probably just the COs way of pumping up the great tribulation

  this would alter their way of worship

  the GB would never admit or say anything that would shine a light on law suits, pedo cases, income, wealth, etc. 
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  Last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know dubs are delusional.

  i know dubs don't reason well.

  i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.

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  It's very obvious the GB has the R&F doing research and comments about the organization instead of the bible

  the sheeple's blinders are narrowing focus solely to the organization and anyone not spending hours per week on JW.org will not feel a part of the group

  typical cult tactic
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  Question about the HLC and medical records

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the hlc was established after i left the jws.

  here in canada, the hlc was piloted back in the early 70s and that is when i had a personal encounter with the men in white shirts and shiny black shoes who took away my right to make medical decisions.. i am not very familiar with the internal doings of the hlc, other than that they hold the jw patient's life in their hands.. when the hospital liaison committee becomes involved in a jw patient's health care, what type of information is sent to the watchtower headquarters, and does the watchtower society receive copies of the patient's medical records?

  if so, does the society maintain a database/library of historical medical cases that the hlc has been involved in?

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  They will ask you to make copies of your records

  theyll inform you that they have to provide these to you if you ask to see them and then to provide these to the HLC

  they asked me too but I just ignored it and they stopped asking

  thry kept asking me to introduce them to the dr's but I persisted that I wanted them at "arms length"

  this was the phrase they used  

  any response good or bad from any Dr was recorded  they took  notes on every word I said
  
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  Public Speaker Training stifled by wt, it's new 'school' programme.

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the 2015 school setup, discussed this week eliminates the last "school talk" by brothers in favour of 'demonstartions" (a la sisters conversations) of family worship sessions and the like.. is this not a shift away from encouraging bright young ones to hone their (under-estimated) speaker skills ---to.

  now using more of the die-hard, org-bound, --even elders in indoctrination demonstrations?.

  do you see this trend?

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  The GB are so out of touch with reality, they don't have a clue what teenagers want or need

  
  

  I think it's the opposite. The last 2 decades have seen an enormous majority of youth abandon the BOrg as teenagers and young adults

  the GB is reacting out of necessity. They have to retain youth and more specifically young men

  without them they will bleed dry. We will see the results of this in about 10 years time. 
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  If I Were Still A JW I Would Think We Had To Be Living At The Time Of The End!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with all the terrible things happening on this earth, i bet most witnesses feel that jehovah god has to step in..

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  Isis is the king of the north