Posts by tornapart

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New light is Scientifically Accurate!! Here is the Proof!!

by DATA-DOG in

wt 1981 12/1 pg.

28 paragraph 9.. .

" such adjustments might be said to follow a principle that has been said to govern the progress of scientific truth.

WAAWAW - Watching AAWA's Website

by UsuaIusern@me in

as on now the awaa website is down for maintenance.

is was meant to be out for 48hrs.

it was down over 72 hrs ago and promises to be up in a further 12. .

tornapart

I think they should shut the FB group completely and start a forum attached (or linked) to their website. (maybe that's what they're doing?)

Anyone could join either as themselves or anonymously and everyone would be happy. No one would be forced joined to it, or be outed. It would be open for all to see, or have private areas just for registered members.

The FB group was a disaster waiting to happen, who knows how many people have had their real identity exposed without their permission and their JW family and friends being able to see that the'd joined a FB group called 'Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists'...............

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Adultery in the Bible

by BU2B in

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i know that when you take a marriage vow, faithfulness is expected and either party going outside that bond is wrong.

however as i read the bible i seem to notice that in the old testament a woman having relations with anyone not her husband was adultery, however the only way a male can commit adultery is to have relations with another married woman, thereby infringing on another mans wife.

if a married man was to have relations with an unmarried woman or prostitute, this isnt considered adultery.

tornapart

Jesus attitude towards the woman who committed adultery that they wanted to stone, says it all to me. He came to show us who God really was.

He said 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. When they had all gone, he asked where her accusers were. On seeing none he said to her 'neither do I accuse you'.

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Bethel Speaker- get rid of Facebook!

by Kensho in

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special assembly day (sad) bethel speaker ( a very good speaker i might add) in his talk " follow your spirit-directed conscience gave example of and elder and his family.

he noticed his wife and daughter spending a lot of time morning noon and night on facebook, it almost seemed like that is all they did, so as a spiritual head decided to see what they were constantly looking at, "let me see what you are spending so much time looking at on facebook said the elder".

the wife explained this is how we keep in contact with the "friends", elder started to look at her page and she was correct, there he found friends in the cong.

tornapart

I've got a 7/1 ratio of non-JW to JW. So far more are not JWs on my list. I keep my JW friends in a separate list. I love my non JW friends, most of them are wonderful people, I've collected them over several years and some I've got to know really well, meeting quite a lot of them over the years and having lots of fun. I don't know what I'd do without it and I never 'obeyed' directions to not have it, to not make 'worldly' friends. I'm old enough and mature enough to be able to choose my own friends without anyone else's say so. Makes my blood boil! (always has!.... maybe that's why I'm here now.. LOL)

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!!!!INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT!!!! this morning. Family member hears TTATT.

by Gojira_101 in

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so my husband's brother called him this morning.

i will call his brother earl (fake name :) so earl calls him out of the blue, hubby hasn't talked to him in a few months.

earl was never baptized and left jw's in his later teens and the family has also thought he was a low life and the black sheep of the family.

tornapart

Awesome! I love reading your family's stories! :) I feel like there's going to be a whole clan of you in here soon! LOL

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

tornapart

Thanks QC it should be interesting! :)

Crazyguy, I think it makes sense that Satan 'fell' or was ousted from heaven before Jesus was killed if you believe that he was not Michael. Michael the archangel and the army of angels battled with Satan so that the heavens would be cleared of enemies, ready for it's king who was soon to die and be resurrected and ascend to heaven. At least that's the way I see it. :)

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What attracts/draws/pulls you toward some groups,associations,organizations,memberships? What repels you from others?

by StoneWall in

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in light of whats been going on in the last few days it got me to thinking about what is it that drives us to want to be a part of something and yet reject other things.. for instance for me i highly value words such as truth,facts,honor,integrity,liberation and find that i'm attracted to endeavors which pursue these things.. so for me personally, jwfacts.com was a website i felt drawn to because it appealed just in name only at first, but then the more i read the better i liked it.. but the first thing had to be the name to get me drawn in to investigate.. next i thought of randy's site that i like called freeminds.org.

just the name sounded so liberating,so refreshing from all the control that i experienced as a jw.. also i got to browsing my bookmark page and realized that the vast majority of my bookmarks were mainly sites that dealt with facts such as nasa.gov, various news websites and history etc.. then i started wondering about why there are some websites others liked but i wasn't that impressed with them.. what did they see that was interesting to them or of value in their eyes?.

what draws you to a company/corporation, or a cause or what is it that makes you want to either get involved with something or pass?.

tornapart

I'm attracted to the ones which use common sense and logic, lack negativity and show mutual respect. Negativity, aggression, activism etc. repel me.

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

tornapart

Thanks QC.. I love seeing it all anew without the WT glasses! And it's great to be able to share new things we learn with each other without worrying about saying the wrong thing!

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My Meetings With Two Elders Today, "I am not a Christian and I am going to Die!"

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

hi, my time is drawing ever closer as i can no longer speak lies about the organization and all the past revisions and my sins i committed against everyone i judged while serving on judicial committees.

i lay awake at night with guilt because i ask jehovah and his son jesus christ to forgive me for being so judgemental, self assured and arrogant at certain times in my life.

i was not a prince of peace, at times i was a coward when i was first appointed because i wanted to keep all things peaceful with my peers, not with my heavenly father and saviour jesus christ.

tornapart

I had the same questions from a close relative recently. I said exactly what Gnat suggested. That I know Jehovah loves me and he and his Son are the ones who do the judging, no one else. As to the 'Organisation' question, I just said that Jesus Christ is my Master, just as he said, we are to call no one on earth our leader.

Quote a well known and well used verse at them and they have no answers and they can't pin anything on you. It's hard not to get angry but it is really important to keep calm and think before you speak (something I'm trying to work on!) They are really good at turning the tables on you. Don't let them. Think out some 'blockers' beforehand that you can use just in case they have another go at you. If they say something that you have difficulty replying to without landing yourself in it, just stay silent.

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Facebook 101, Help for Faders

by Gojira_101 in

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i know i'm going to get bagged on for this, but i'm really just trying to help those who are fading if they have facebook or are on any social media outlets.. first off let's review.. .com stands for commercial.

.net stands for network.

....etc.. so facebook.com is a commercial site, meaning they are trying to sell you something....or specialized advertising trying to get you to buy something because of your browsing history.

tornapart

I've been really concerned with internet privacy lately and have tightened up everything. I also said goodbye on FB to my exJW friends, I will have to keep them separate from now on. Also the only app I've left on FB is my Norton security app. all the rest are gone.

I also posted this a few days ago, if anyone is interested in tightening up their internet. Stopping being tracked (especially by FB) all over the internet.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/250195/1/Tools-for-internet-privacy