Posts by Londo111

I find that usually pizza is best when there are only one or two toppings. Too many do not blend well. If a pizza is good enough, it doesn't need many topping.

But sometimes I like sausage as a sole topping.

Sometimes bacon.

Sometimes a combo of chicken and bacon.

Sometimes tomato slices and fresh basil.

I also love white pizza, no extra toppings.

And I stay away from pizza chains. There are plenty of local places that serve way better pizza.

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

There was likely much revision in the second century. For instance, in 1 Corinthians 14, it seems the "women be silent" was an interpolation. And Paul never actually wrote 1 Timothy which says the same thing.

Of course, the New Testament is a compilation of books from different Christian groups from the first and second century, each with different theological viewpoints.

But from what Paul and the Christian group he was writing to at Philippi, I think their answer would be found at Philippians 2:9, “Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name.”

Therefore the name above every name is given to Jesus...the one who in verse 6, who had “God’s form” or nature.

No matter whether the LXX with the divine name was used by the New Testament writers or indeed placed the name in their original writings, often passages in the Old Testament that were about YHWH got applied to Jesus. For these writers Jesus was by nature or kind YHWH, while a distinct person from his Father.

The writer of the epistle of John would have agreed. Of course, the writer of Mark would’ve bitterly disagreed. And likely the writer of Matthew and Luke.

Whatever the original form of the writings that became the New Testament and whether the Divine Name was included, or passages like in Philippians were ramped up and altered to reflect high Christology is still speculation and guesswork.

Until someone finds an early NT manuscript with the divine name in it, there is no real proof.

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

Londo111

Here is Bart Ehrman's take on the question:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/156150002/bart-ehrman-answers-my-question

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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall

by pale.emperor in

has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.

Londo111

In my area, the last two rows were reserved for latecomers, and in particular, those with small children. Sometimes it was reserved or cordoned off by attendants.

Of course, most JWs find meetings dull as wall paper and would prefer to be at home or doing something else, or at least, not to have to go to the Kingdom Hall SO often. But they are under fear, obligation and guilt and feel compelled to attend.

There seems a general tendency that most JWs do not like sitting up front. Often, counsel was given from the platform to counter this, because I think many JWs would prefer to sit in back and not feel like they are being watched by everyone sitting behind them. If one has social anxiety, this sense is even more acute.

A DFed person who attends the Kingdom Hall has to endure allot of shame. It is an uphill battle for them to even walk in. I suspect this is so even for those without social anxiety.

Therefore, rather than a rule, it’s a natural consequence for a DFed person to slip in during the song, sit as far back as they can, be as invisible as possible (with exception of the elders to note their attendance), and slip out during the final song.

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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall

by pale.emperor in

has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.

Londo111

The heck with that. As if I want to every step into a Kingdom Hall again.

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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

by whatisthis12 in

i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

Londo111

Imagine this scenario:

Down the road you and your boyfriend decided to have children. There's a terrible car accident and your child needs a blood transfusion if they are going to live. Imagine he responds before you do (perhaps you are unconscious as well). Will he allow the child to have a blood transfusion?

Heck...imagine YOU need the blood transfusion to save your life and are unconscious. Will he try to prevent the blood transfusion?

What about fractions of blood? Will his conscience allow them? What if the fraction isn't a "conscience matter" as defined by Watchtower?

Imagine this...what if he takes the kid the Kingdom Hall on occasion? Or decides he wants to have someone at the Kingdom Hall "study" with the kid (perhaps secretly...this has happened). Imagine this...the elders are aware that one of the JWs has molested children in the past, but have not warned the parents. In fact, that JW still goes door-to-door. Or perhaps the elders have heard of reports about a JW, but because there aren't "two witnesses" to the molestation, their hands are tied and they can't do anything about it.

There are all sorts of nightmare scenarios if he is not mentally out. His parents would be actively attempting to study with and makes sure any children become JWs.

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

Londo111

Yep another good point.

Jehovah = YHWH + the vowels of Adoni

It was the result of a misunderstanding of a medieval Catholic scholar.

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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

by whatisthis12 in

i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

Londo111

Yep...I think what OneEyedJoe said is the most comprehensive comment on this thus far. Read and reread it.