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  Getting your WT files deleted (UK)

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the uk are tightening up their data protection laws to make it easier for individuals to get hold of the information organisations hold on them and to get it deleted.. i think paul grundy (jwfacts) went through this with wt once and found it very time consuming and difficult.. will wt now abide by the law and hand over or permanently delete the records it keeps when requested?it would mean every uk exjw could have their report card info, personal file with age, sex, baptism date, judicial information, appointment/deletion/disfellowshipping dates, letters of disassociation, letters of recommendation when you move, phone number and address permanently removed.

  anyone acting for the wt (elders) who retain this information, eg your phone number in their phone or the secretary keeping your historical monthly report details, will be in violation.

  failure to comply will incur a fine.. expect a letter to all boe's any time soon explaining why this does not apply to them.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40826062.

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  Londo111

  Unfortunately, this doesn't help us over here across the pond.
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  JWs Reaction to BBC Report

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for months i have been telling my friends - very devout jws - about the problem of child abuse in the organization but it wasn't until they saw the bbc report that they finally believed it.

  (i made mention of their reaction in an earlier post.).

  today they have emailed me to say the bbc report has hit them really hard.

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  Londo111

  Of course, few JWs actually want to go out in "field ministry" anyway.

  But this is good news.
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  What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?

  by Iamallcool in

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  2. friends

  i want something different on my next pizza!.

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  Londo111

  Today the Little Caesars chain is another bottom of the barrel quality (along with Pizza Hut, Dominoes, ect).

  But I remember when they first opened in my area when I was in my teens, they served this Sicilian style pizza with fresh tasting ingredients. I'd never had anything besides Pizza Hut and it was mindblowing.

  Of course, over the years, Little Caesars eschewed quality for quick and cheap.
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  Lorenz Reibling weighs in on Trump, Money and Real E$tate

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lorenz reibling (known as brother reibling to some...) - owner of taurus investments* - spoke in munich, germany october 2016.. *taurus investments bought property from the wt - story here:.

  http://50.56.218.160/archive/category.php?category_id=5&id=23669.

  it seems like reibling has been spending most of his time in germany these past couple years.

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  Londo111

  I wondered if he helped with the deal to sell Watchtower HQ to Trump's son in law.
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  What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
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  i want something different on my next pizza!.

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  Londo111

  My favorites are all local...never a chain restaurant.

  In my area (Richmond, Virginia): Leonardo's, Maldini's, Mary Angela's, Nonna's.

  My favorite places which closed long ago were Pacino's and Roberto's. I still think back on them longingly.

  I don't care for Pizza Hut either...I can't remember the last time I've been there. It's probably been over 10 years, if not 15. I grew up eating that because that's what my parents got, but like the religion they raised me in, I didn't know anything else.

  My wife orders Papa John's and sometimes it's okay. But it would never be my preference. Of course, right now, I am dieting, so no pizza for me from anywhere unfortunately.

  I would love to go to Chicago one day and have a real Chicago-style pizza.
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  Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted to get people's opinion on something.

  how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.

  there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.

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  Londo111

  There is a continual tension in the human condition: Society needs laws--but sometimes a law is wrong. Legal doesn’t always mean good or right.

  Also, sometimes individuals and organizations can use the law to cloak themselves, and if they have the resources, they can become untouchable.

  At one time, slavery was the law. And those who helped slaves escape were breaking the law. Today we praise these people as heros.

  At one time, segregation was the law. And law enforcement acted against those who broke this law. Today, we hail the individuals who engaged in civil disobedience for the greater good.

  If it were not for whistleblowers, we would not know about immoral and unethical behavior of organizations, corporations, powerful individuals, or even entities within governments.

  If Watchtower was indeed the force of good in the world it claims to be, it would welcome transparency. It would have no problem having its hierarchy recorded, its documents leaked. It would open its computer files. It would welcome itself to be audited. It would itemize everything and make it public. After all, what would there to be to hide?

  As John 3:20 says, “For everyone who practices wicked things hates the light and avoids it, so that his deeds may not be exposed. “

  With all that said, that is not to say every act of breaking the law in order to work for the greater good is okay. The ends don’t always justify the means. But sometimes it might be the only way.

  Assassinating Watchtower officials or their hierarchy...that would definitely NOT be okay. Burning down Kingdom Halls or Watchtower buildings...that would NOT be okay.

  Protesting in the Kingdom Hall...it would be counterproductive to the cause, but it would not cross an ethical line.

  Whistleblowing, turning over documents, secret recordings, leaking information...I'm all for it.
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  Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.

  i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.

  i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?

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  Londo111

  Let's say there are subliminal images that the Watchtower has purposely placed in the artwork.

  Who would be in charge of that? Would the Governing Body know? Do they give instructions that comes down to the art department? Are these instructions written? Why hasn't these instructions, verbal or written, leaked? Why hasn't anyone who carried out these instructions come forward?
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  Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.

  i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.

  i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?

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  Londo111

  Is it me or is that man's hand awfully close to that boy's...
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  What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i want something different on my next pizza!.

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  Londo111

  Anders Andersen:

  Domino's is probably the worst pizza chain here in the US…I don’t even consider it pizza. It’s to pizza what Donald Trump is to Presidents. :)

  I can’t imagine that is all you have in the Netherlands. I think you would be blown away at some of the places over here.
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  What religions/organizations aren't a cult?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so we've already established that most religions can be classified as high control groups, we can name the wbts, church of scientology, lds, etc.

  the list goes on and on.

  but are there any religions or organizations that aren't classified as a high control group or aren't as bad as the ones i've just mentioned?

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  Londo111

  A religion is to a cult, what a government is to a dictatorship.

  Not all governments are dictatorships. Even democracies have laws and law enforcement, but it is a matter of degree.

  As Steven Hassan said, it is a spectrum.
  

  Not all religions are cults. Most Christian groups are not cults...you can walk away and still talk to your family.

  Mainline Protestantism especially is pretty benign. Of course, fundamentalist and charismatic Christian groups have cult characteristics, some more, some less. Some of these groups border on being cult-like, if not cross the line.