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  Even LEGO must obey jesus command to keep doing this

  by Kevin McFree in

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  https://youtu.be/vdtwrqvgcv0.

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  "The biggest spectator sport in history."

  "There's Brother Disfellowshipped. Shun! Shun!"

  "Personally reject Jesus."

  This is by far one of the best Dubtown videos I have seen.
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  The Memorial, The Messiah, and Why it's all Bogus

  by truth_b_known in

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  if it were not for the fact that my sister posted this year's memorial invitation on her facebook page yesterday i would have no idea it was today (note: i live a quarter mile from the local kingdom hall.

  still no invite).

  i faded well over a decade ago, but was not mentally out until i attended my last memorial in 2010. attending the memorial actually helped me leave.. yesterday i started analyzing the event that jehovah's witnesses tout as the most important day of the year.

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  What gets me is we invite people to attend the lords evening meal only to spend most of the time telling them why they shouldn't partake! I don't think that's what Jesus intended when he said" keep doing this in remembrance of me" - NowWhat

  By far, that is the biggest part of this nonsensical circus put on by Jehovah's Witnesses. All the time, effort, and money that goes into the do-nothing event of the year. You can refuse to take the emblems without attending just as well as refusing while attending. I am not sure which is more disrespectful, but they are both pretty low.
  
  
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  The Memorial, The Messiah, and Why it's all Bogus

  by truth_b_known in

  1. watchtower
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  if it were not for the fact that my sister posted this year's memorial invitation on her facebook page yesterday i would have no idea it was today (note: i live a quarter mile from the local kingdom hall.

  still no invite).

  i faded well over a decade ago, but was not mentally out until i attended my last memorial in 2010. attending the memorial actually helped me leave.. yesterday i started analyzing the event that jehovah's witnesses tout as the most important day of the year.

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  If it were not for the fact that my sister posted this year's Memorial invitation on her Facebook page yesterday I would have no idea it was today (Note: I live a quarter mile from the local Kingdom Hall. Still no invite). I faded well over a decade ago, but was not mentally out until I attended my last Memorial in 2010. Attending the Memorial actually helped me leave.

  Yesterday I started analyzing the event that Jehovah's Witnesses tout as the most important day of the year. I remember well how much of a big deal they made out of it. Then it was about in the 1990s that this practice of people buying new suits or dresses and going out to dinner in large groups afterwards started. This event is as close to a Christmas as JWs will ever get.

  So, JWs proclaim that they practice the Lord's Evening Meal in the way Jesus intended. The Gospel accounts are referenced with Jesus quote "Keep on doing this in remembrance of me." The Watchtower then takes liberties in interpreting this using what they believe is reasoning -

  • Jesus instituted the Lord's Evening Meal on the same evening as Jewish Passover.
  • Jewish Passover is once a year.
  • The Memorial should be once a year on Nissan 14.

  Then the Watchtower really reaches out. I mean, it's a big stretch -

  • The Lord's Evening Meal is intended for the annointed.
  • We all should be present, but not participate, out of respect and to show we are grateful.

  If this mystical man known as Jesus of Nazareth really existed, and that's a topic for another discussion, he seemed to know the following -

  • It's Nissan 14 at sundown.
  • After celebrating Passover I will be arrested.
  • The next day I will be executed.

  Time was running out for ole Jesus. He knew that Nissan 14 was his last chance to start this whole Lord's Evening Meal. So, was it intended to be held the same night as Jewish Passover? I guess we will never know. What I suggest is that the Watchtower's reasoning is rather flimsy in regards to it being an annual event.

  Next, we look at the whole idea of the non-participating observer. Fortunately, we do have definitive scriptural proof that this is not so...maybe.

  Matthew, Mark, and Luke's account of the Lord's Evening Meal are written in a way the reader may think Judas Iscariot participated. However, John's account is different -

  So after he received the piece of bread, he went out immediately. And it was night - John 13:30

  So, during the Passover Judas Iscariot leaves the meal after it is revealed that he will betray Jesus. Why is this of importance? Simply put: Only those partaking are invited. All others - hit the road!

  Next I started researching another topic I had always wondered - Why didn't the Jews accept Jesus as the foretold Messiah? It didn't take too long to discover. So far my research shows this - He wasn't!
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  A good idea not to have Children

  by new boy in

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  does anyone one here remember any articles in the watchtower in the nineteen sixties or seventies that specifically stated the that the witnesses should refrain from having children because of the proximity of armageddon?.

  i guess i should never have made a bound fire with my thirty years of bound volumes lol.

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  NO - w2016/4 p.9 Par.17 Being Faithful Leads To Gods' Approval
  17. (b) How do the words at Hebrews 6:10-12 encourage you to be self sacrificing?
  Would it be possible for you to make additional sacrifices to serve Jehovah more fully?

  This is a big factor in why my left JWs. The constant urging to make more sacrifices. In other words - what ever you are doing isn't good enough.
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  A good idea not to have Children

  by new boy in

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  does anyone one here remember any articles in the watchtower in the nineteen sixties or seventies that specifically stated the that the witnesses should refrain from having children because of the proximity of armageddon?.

  i guess i should never have made a bound fire with my thirty years of bound volumes lol.

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  It's funny how you cannot hold a position in the congregation for sending your kid to college but you can for having a kid. According to the Witnesses, wouldn't that show a lack of faith and a lack of belief that we are in the last part of the Last Days? I wish it were enforced. The whole cult would literally die off in a generation. A real generation and not an overlapping generation.
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  Yay! I get to go to the memorial this weekend

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  i kind of expected it.

  this is an event that even satan himself could attend.

  yes, if the wt don't quit blaming satan for everything, soon he will be more qualified for mercy than the f&d slave himself (or themselves).

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  Go hungry. I hear the Lord's Evening Meal is rather tasty.
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  Heart wrenching letter

  by neat blue dog in

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  i don't know why i read this stuff it makes me so upset 😅 but although it's sad and frustrating it also is encouraging in a way:.

  http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/letter-1/.

  http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/letter-2/.

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  Letter #1 is powerful. This man served as an elder and saw first hand what the real purpose of the elder arrangement is - preserve, protect, and defend the organization.

  Letter #2 reveals just how in depth the bureaucracy of the organization is.
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  Does the Watchtower have an official position on Alcoholics Anonymous?

  by JeffT in

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  2. friends

  i ask because i'm working in a 28 day residential addiction treatment center and one of my co-workers is studying with the jw's.

  he does not know i'm an xjw.

  i suspect that at some point they're going to tell him he can't go to aa meetings anymore.

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  I can only recall that it is "frowned on" (i.e. You won't hold any positions in the congregation, but you can't be DFed) because some of the program is religious based. Not denominational, but generic Bible/Christian based.
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  Three Simple Reasons Why an Assault-Weapons Ban Is Bad Policy

  by freemindfade in

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  i keep saying this is a bad place/policy to put all the time, energy and resources if you really do in fact care, or if you are just riding the agenda bandwagon: .

  an assault-weapons ban is irrelevant to suicide deaths.

  the large majority of gun deaths are suicides, and there is no credible argument that an assault-weapons ban will have the slightest effect on suicide.

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  Thank You All - Dealing with my Dad

  by truth_b_known in

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  2. experiences

  it was 2010 when i first came to this website.

  it was the day after the memorial.

  i swore i would never attend another memorial, ever.. my father had called me a few day prior to that memorial and encouraged me to go.

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  It was 2010 when I first came to this website. It was the day after the Memorial. I swore I would never attend another Memorial, ever.

  My father had called me a few day prior to that Memorial and encouraged me to go. I had been completely inactive for about 4 years at that point. My dad made it sound like the Memorial talk was going to be new, different, and of some great importance. It was none of those things.

  Since then I believe I have only spoken to him over the phone a few times. Although he laid off the Witness talk, he was still ending our phone conversations with his weird conspiracy theories, which ultimately implied that "The End" was near. It was like Alex Jones on steroids. As a result, I stopped calling.

  A month ago my grandmother died in her sleep. She would have turned 95 this coming September. I found out from my aunt and later my cousin via Facebook posts. I struggled with calling my dad. I wanted to console him and express my sympathies on the loss of his mother.

  I tried calling my parents' house. No response. I called my brother who still lives near them. He is completely out of the organization and I figured it would be non-confrontational calling him, but he didn't answer. I called my sister finally. She is my only sibling that's PIMI. She answered and said that my parents were at the afternoon Sunday meeting. She said that they usually go out to dinner after the meeting and before going home. She was on vacation outside the area and had not spoken to our father.

  I finally got a hold of my brother. We hadn't spoken but a handful of times since I moved to another state over 10 years ago. We had a good talk. He said our father wasn't really responding to the passing of his mother. I thought that was weird, but not for him.

  Side note - my father did not become a Witness until his early thirties. He is the oldest child of a large family. He found out after high school when he enlisted in the military that his father was not really his father. His biological father abandon he and his mother after his birth. His mom re-married immediately as it was scandalous back in those days to be a single mom. Growing up my dad only rarely brought us around his family. He has one brother who became a Witness and he was the only one we regularly hung out with.

  Finally, at about 8:00PM local time my dad called me. I told him I was calling to express my sympathy for the passing of his mother and to check up on he and my mother. I wasn't sure what to expect. My father always professed to be of the annointed since he became a Witness. I wasn't sure how all the changes in doctrine and practice would effect his outlook on the organization. I found out pretty quick.

  My father immediately replied that his mother was old and it was expected. He made some comment about seeing her again after the resurrection. He made no indication that he was going to travel to her funeral. He made a comment that his family was only their when they wanted something.

  I stopped him. I said "Dad, your mother has just died. No matter who you are or how old your are or hold old she is, she is your mother. That means something."

  He paused and said "You're right." He then talked about how he had kept in contact with her recently. In fact he had spoken to her on the phone just the week before.

  I realized I have rambled on long enough and I should get to my point -

  The religion known as Jehovah's Witnesses has stolen a lot from me. It stole a normal childhood. It stole the first 10 years of my adulthood as I regret not enlisting in the military and regret not starting my law enforcement career when I was 21. It has also stolen my parents and my sister from me. However, it has not stolen all happiness from my life.

  It wasn't until March of 2010 that I finally cut all ties with the religion and saw it for what it really is. I give all credit to this website and all of you for that. I know I post things on here that people don't agree with or upset people, but I care for each and everyone of you just like family. Family member make each other mad from time to time, but in the end they always stick together.

  Thank you all for helping me discover life before it really was too late.